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Renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship (Part 1)

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Related : Renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship (Part 2) and Renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship (Part 3).

Renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship Checklist

Letter of Approval from Singapore Immigration &  Checkpoints Authority (ICA) (Original and 2 photocopies) – CHECK!

Malaysia NRIC/Singapore Pink/Blue IC (Original and 2 photocopies) – CHECK!

Malaysian/Singapore Birth Certificate (Original and 2 photocopies). Malaysian original birth cert to be laminated. Those born in Singapore are required to produce "Borang W" (Malaysian Citizenship Certificate), "Pengesahan Taraf" (Confirmation of Status) or "Perakuan Taraf" (Certificate of Status) – CHECK!

Malaysian Passport including expired passport – Got 2 of em, CHECK!

Photocopies of Parents NRIC, Birth Certificate or Citizenship & Passport (To produce 2 copies of each of the documents). These doc(s) are required for those : (i) without Malaysian IC…etc..whatever..etc.. If they have attained Singapore Citizenship, produce Malaysian "Borang K" – CHECK!

3 Recent Colour Photographs Passport Size – CHECK!

Not easy to renounce citizenship. Got to wake up early and reach Jervois Road, Malaysian Embassy at 8 a.m. Luckily I have Jessie to be my right-hand-lady.

Mum gave me quite a bit of cash. She says I'm going to have a hellova time there because the forms are in Malay. She told me to just keep saying "Don't know how to fill in", then the guy will direct us over to a photo-taking shop which will gladly us fill the form… for a price though. Heh, interesting. We'll see what happens tomorrow.

[ Update : 020908 ]

Dear all,

Do kindly take note, just in case there are any enquiries about Form K.

As of current, I have taken my oath, and completed all my renunciation at the High Commission.

I am currently waiting for the collection of Form K – Certificate of Renunciation, which will take approximately two years from date of renunciation. My renunciation date is 03/08/07, which means my Form K collection date will be 03/08/09.

Upon collection of Form K, I must submit them (original and a photocopy) personally / send a representative to Citizen Services Centre immediately to complete the entire process.

[ Update : 301208 ]

Just updating for your info, might be useful for those who wish to see how far is the light at the end of tunnel.

I have completed the renunciation on the Malaysian side, and taken the oath at ICA building on 03 AUG 07. ICA sent me a letter in SEP 08, requesting that I submit the official renunciation document (Form K) by AUG 09.

The following are email exchanges for your reference.

My email to ICA

I writing to you with regards to the letter “OATH OF RENUNCIATION, ALLEGIANCE AND LOYALTY (ORAL), Ref No : Minor Oath” which I received on 01 Sep 2008.

According to the letter, the deadline to send the original and photocopy is on 18 AUG 2009.

My renunciation at the High Commission of Malaysia has been completed on 03 AUG 2007. Till date, I have not received my Form K. I have written to High Commission of Malaysian and was advised that the process take approximately two years. Collection date is, hopefully, latest by 03 AUG 2009. Attached is the email from High Commission for your perusal.

As this collection date is dangerously close to the deadline, I would like to request for an extension till any date in DEC 2009, giving sufficient time for resolution if any unfortunate issues should arise with the collection.

Do kindly take my request into consideration.

Attached reply from High Commission of Malaysia in Singapore

Dear Ms/Mr Sukianto Hamzah,

RENUNCIATION OF MALAYSIAN CITIZENSHIP

1. I wish to refer to your email dated 01 September 2008 on the above.

2. We regret to inform you that your Certificate of Renunciation (Form K) / Birth Certificate are not available for collection as the application are still under process.

3. We are awaiting reply from the Registrar of Citizen in Putrajaya, Malaysia. Be rest assured you will be notified immediately on receipt of the Form K/Birth Certificate. The process will take approximately two years. Please quote your registration number for further enquiries i.e. RN 44 / 08 / 2007.

Reply from ICA

After due consideration, we regret to inform you that we are unable to accede to your request to extend the deadline till Dec 2009. However, should you encounter a delay in the collection of the official renunciation document in early Aug 2009 , please inform us in writing with document from the relevant authorities and we would consider your request.

Just to let you guys know that this process will take years, given that submission of documents now are significantly delayed as compared to when I did it in 2007.

Start of renunciation process : 17 JUL 2007

Oath and complete submission of documents : 03 AUG 2007

End of renunciation process : 18 AUG 2009 (deadline to submit Form K from HCM to ICA)

I wish you all the best of luck.

[ Update : 130409 ]

Estee has information on how to do it overseas. For more information, kindly visit : http://ponponpatapon.wordpress.com/renouncing-your-malaysian-citizenship-the-quick-an-easy-way/

[ Update : 050809 ]

I do not have good news for you unfortunately. I am getting increasingly frustrated with the whole process.

Two years have passed since the submission of my application. I wrote to them again with regards to my Certificate of Renunciation (Form K) collection.

My document is not ready. I was told that the process will take approximately 2 to 3 years now due to the upsurge in applications, an increase from the initial 2 years which they had mentioned in the previous email dated 01 September 2008.

I am extremely upset with their reply, knowing that I would most probably have to wait for another year.

I have now written to Immigrations & Checkpoints Authority (ICA) requesting for an extended submission deadline.

Reply from High Commission of Malaysia in Singapore

Dear Mr Sukianto Hamzah Christopher,

RENUNCIATION OF MALAYSIAN CITIZENSHIP

1. I wish to refer to your email dated 4 August 2009 on the above.

2. We regret to inform you that the Certificate of Renunciation (Form K) / Birth Certificate are not available for collection as we are still awaiting reply from the Registrar of Citizen in Putrajaya Malaysia. The process will take approximately 2 to 3 years as there is an upsurge in the application lately. Please bear with us and we will inform you immediately upon receipt of the Form K/Birth Certificate. Any inconvenience cause is much regretted.

[ Update : 060809 ]

The reply from Immigrations & Checkpoints Authority (ICA) came in less than 24 hours, which is excellent.

Reply from Immigrations & Checkpoints Authority (ICA)

We have considered and extended the deadline to 31 Dec 2009 for you to submit the Certificate of renunciation – Form K.

[ Update : 221209 ]

Have just received the letter to collect the Certificate of Renunciation (Form K).

Letter from High Commission of Malaysia in Singapore

Please be informed that your application for Renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship has been approved. Kindly come personally at this office at Consular Section within two (2) weeks from the above date between 2:30 p.m. and 3:30 p.m. Monday to Friday to collect your Form K/ Birth Certificate.

Kindly being along this letter of approval and the following documents (Original and TWO clear photocopies each):

  1. Singapore Identity Card (To photocopy front and back of document)
  2. Singapore Passport
  3. Singapore Citizenship Certificate (To copy front and back of document) and
  4. Deed Pool / Baptism (if name has been changed)

Certificate of Renunciation. Form K.

Certificate of Renunciation. Form K.

The next thing to do is to submit this form to Immigrations & Checkpoints Authority (ICA).

The time taken from the start of renunciation process (17 JUL 2007) till now is 2 years 5 months and 5 days.

[ Update : 231209 ]

You will need to submit a photocopy of, and show your original Certificate Of Renunciation (Form K), when you are at Immigrations & Checkpoints Authority (ICA)’s Citizen’s Services Centre on the 6th floor.

As of today, my renunciation is complete.

The two important dates in this entire process were :

Oath and complete submission of documents : 03 AUG 2007

Submission of Certificate Of Renunciation (Form K) to ICA : 22 DEC 2009

The renunciation process should take approximately 2 and 1/2 years.

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Written by Sukianto H. Christopher

17 July, 2007 at 8:30 PM

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  1. Hi chris,

    just want to check with you on the procedure at the malaysian high comm on renouncing malaysian citizenship. How many trip did you have to make to get the whole thing done? How long did it take for you to get the letter stating that you have renounced?

    Anonymous

    3 February, 2008 at 7:19 PM

  2. Dear friend,

    I went back three times to get the whole thing done.

    http://orangeous.wordpress.com/2007/07/19/renunciation-of-malaysian-citizenship-part-2/

    http://orangeous.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/renunciation-of-malaysian-citizenship-part-3/

    It’s the documentation that is the problem. The forms are in Malay so I was not sure on how to fill them in. I suggest you head straight to this guy, just pay him a fee and get it over and done with.

    WTLEE SERVICES

    Blk 77, #01-499, Indus Road, Singapore 161077

    Call Louis Lee, HP: 97933633

    I’d rather have him settle the entire application for me. It’s just not worth coming back again to queue up, getting forms thrown back at your face, and deal with the horrible attitude of the counter staff.

    After renunciation is submitted, you MUST return again probably in a few days or so to collect the renunciation slip.

    With this slip, head down to SIR building to take your OATH. You have so called “renounced” your Malaysian Citizenship. And it’ll be around a year or so before you receive your proper renunciation letter.

    Hope this helps you.

    chris

    5 February, 2008 at 12:10 AM

  3. Chris,

    Thanks for the information. Happy CNY to you !!!

    Anonymous

    9 February, 2008 at 2:28 PM

  4. happy CNY to you too! hope it helped you.

    chris

    12 February, 2008 at 11:51 PM

  5. Just exactly how long do you have to wait for the final renounciation letter to arrive? Becasue they told me have to wait for 2 years. And our ICA is chasing like mad saying that have to show them the Form K otherwise they will take back the Singapore passport…:(

    Anonymous

    27 March, 2008 at 1:10 PM

  6. Hi,

    What if i lost my expired passport, anything can be done?

    Undestand that we need to get an appointment at M’sia High Com, the min trips there would be 3, is tat true?

    KIM

    5 July, 2008 at 11:47 AM

  7. Hey, very useful info. Helps me with mine too =) Thanks!

    It will definitely help reduce the trips!

    Anonymous

    6 July, 2008 at 4:10 PM

  8. Anonymous : Thank you! I am really pleased that this info has helped you. Hope everything goes smoothly for you.

    KIM : Hmm. I’m not sure about loss of expired passports. Why don’t you contact the guy WTLEE SERVICES and see if he can help you out with that. 3 trips I believe.

    1) Collection of forms

    2) Submission

    3) Collection of Proof of Renunciation

    If you go straight to the guy I believe its only 2 trips, since he already has the forms and will type it out for you.

  9. Anonymous : Thank you! I am really pleased that this info has helped you. Hope everything goes smoothly for you.

    KIM : Hmm. I’m not sure about loss of expired passports. Why don’t you contact the guy WTLEE SERVICES and see if he can help you out with that. 3 trips I believe.

    1) Collection of forms

    2) Submission

    3) Collection of Proof of Renunciation

    If you go straight to the guy I believe its only 2 trips, since he already has the forms and will type it out for you.

  10. I will be doing through the same thing too in August. Thank you for your advice. Keep us posted……

    cat_aunty

    16 July, 2008 at 4:46 PM

  11. cat_aunty : you are much welcome. the last thing I want to see you do is go back many many times. I wish you all the best in your renunciation!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    17 July, 2008 at 7:51 AM

  12. Does anyone know whether the original birth certificate will be return to us upon collection of proff of renunciation?

    ken

    18 July, 2008 at 7:07 PM

  13. hi ken. i’m not sure abt that but i didn’t have my original birth certificate.

    maybe someone else who chances upon this post can help you?

    i apologize.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    18 July, 2008 at 8:05 PM

  14. Dear Chris

    i had obtained a date to submit the application, because they only do 20 a day. I will have to wait until 4th Sept!!!! And I have to call ICA to postpone. They couldn’t do on the same day because i reached there after 11am.

    cat_aunty

    19 July, 2008 at 12:20 PM

  15. hi cat_aunty! oh my god! 4th Sept! I have absolutely no idea that the queue was so long! submission should be very fast right? just let the counter on your right check through applications, then they will redirect you to the left counter if everything is complete. geesh! i never knew the queue was so long now. is it possible to go through that WTLEE guy to see if things can be sped up? how about you call him for advice?

    WTLEE SERVICES

    Blk 77, #01-499, Indus Road, Singapore 161077

    Call Louis Lee, HP: 97933633

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    20 July, 2008 at 6:10 PM

  16. Form K..

    I am a native born Malaysian wish to renounce the citizenship as I have been granted approval for Sinagpore Citizenshp. Form K requires to fill up below information, any idea what is all about.

    I,the undersigned, a Malaysian Citizen by Operaion of Law/Registration/Naturalization/Certificate No.___________ (attached herewith) conscientiously wish to renounce my Malaysian Citizenship as I have acquired a Singapore Citizenship….

    What number is that? I dun have such documents

    JIN

    24 July, 2008 at 7:46 AM

  17. I went down to collect form K today. To my suprise submission of form is set at Sept 15 the earliest. Collection of Proof of Renunciation is 7 days after submission. REALLT PISS OFF.

    Anyone know the ICA number to request change of citizenship registration date?

    JIN

    24 July, 2008 at 7:59 AM

  18. hi JIN. I think that refers to Malaysian birth cert?

    Oh my god, 15 Sept! cat_aunty had to wait till 4th Sept too. there was no such delay when I was doing my renunciation.

    I think you can contact ICA at :

    ICA 24-hour Call Centre

    Tel: 6391 6100

    Probably get them to redirect you to the right department.

    Wish you all the best and a speedy closure to this.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    27 July, 2008 at 4:59 PM

  19. Oh yes, I did have to wait for a week or so after my submission to collect my Proof of Renunciation. After which I headed down directly to ICA building to take my oath.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    27 July, 2008 at 5:02 PM

  20. I just got my S’pore Citizenship approval letter (both for myself and 2 of my daughters age 3 and 8 and they are are born in S’pore). In the letter, I’m told to renounce my M’sian Citizenship but not for my daughters. Is this normal or it is because when I become a S’pore Citizen, they will automatically follow mine?

    KHS05

    18 August, 2008 at 5:36 AM

  21. Hi Chris,

    I went down on 30th July… the lastest appointment date given to me is 22nd September… fainted

    For rescheduling with ICA, there is a number provide at the top part of the Approval Letter. Just need to let them have your Application Number.

    Btw, I was told my the counter staff that just need to bring phocopied IC of parent will do. She didnt mentioned about Parent’s Birth Cert…etc.

    Is it required?

    and how much is the fee for WT LEE? Cos I am also quite headache to get it TYPE…. nowaday where got ppl using type writter? :(

    Jackie

    18 August, 2008 at 6:22 AM

  22. Hi Chris, One question for you. When will they officially take away your M’sian passport from you? I need to plan in advance because I do a lot of regional traveling as it is part of my job.

    KHS05

    18 August, 2008 at 8:05 AM

  23. KHS05 : No. They will not. My dad became a singapore citizen after giving birth to me in Singapore. I still continued to retain my Malaysian citizenship. And my birthcert had : THIS CHILD IS NOT A CITIZEN OF SINGAPORE AT TIME OF BIRTH.

    On the day I submitted my forms, my Malaysian passport was taken away from me. I had a Singapore passport at that time already and the Malaysian passport was of no use to me.

    Jackie : Hi jackie. OMG 22nd September, such a long wait! I brought along my parents birth cert and NRIC photocopies, and all were taken as well. I believe its worthwhile to play safe.

    WT LEE, erm last time I paid I think… 60 or 70? They printed it via normal ink jet printer. Once the counter staff sees that it is printed (instead of written), they will know it comes from WT LEE. Understand that some things can be posted online, some cannot. haha. you’ll know what i am saying.

    wish you all the best

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    19 August, 2008 at 4:43 PM

  24. Hi Chris,

    I’ve just got the approval letter last night, attend NEE on 17 Sep… … Citizenship registration on 06 Nov…

    I’m expecting baby in first week Oct this year (could be coming anytime now). What IF I’ve submitted the K form for renounce my Malaysia citizenship while in the process, but before getting the Singapore citizenship? Will this cause complication?

    Thanks in advance :)

    Alex

    Alex Chong

    23 August, 2008 at 12:10 AM

  25. Hi Alex,

    First of all, CONGRATULATIONS!

    My apologies. I really cannot advise you on this because I do not know much about the procedures.

    1. Hopefully someone who has been through this chances upon this post while searching Google and is able to comment and advise you accordingly.

    2. On the safe side, you might want to call ICA @ 6391 6100. Their information cannot be wrong. And as far as I know, the people there are really really very helpful in answering any enquiry you might have.

    Wish you all the best. Do keep us updated!

    Regards,

    Chris

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    23 August, 2008 at 5:47 AM

  26. Hi Alex,

    Congratulations on your upcoming delivery!!! We are also expecting our first one next month….

    I am in the same boat as you too…

    I just received my approval letter yesterday and the registration date given to me is 28 October… which is after my delivery date.. So I called up ICA to request if I could bring it forward… The lady told me that many Malaysians postpone it actually coz they cannot get the Renunciation letter in time!!

    Another friend of mine who gave up her Malaysian citizenship told me that the process is very fast. Did not even have to make appointment! Just went to the High Comm and had it done very quickly… Sigh… but she could not remember when she did her renunciation or how much paperwork was required…. because I doubt that the ICA lady could be wrong – I’m sure many would have called her up to inquire.

    I have the same question as you too… whether after submitting the Form K, then I deliver before my registration as a Singaporean citizen, there will be complications… Coz currently, if both parents are Malaysians, then we’d need to register the baby at High Comm (Borang W) but if I’ve submitted the Borang K, then dunno whether my hubby alone still will be able to get the baby registered as a Malaysian and still apply for Malaysian passport… coz we need to travel home after delivery to visit family and I’m a bit concerned… sigh….

    Guess I’ll have to make a trip down to the High Comm to make inquiries…..

    And check out how long the appointment queue is!!!!

    Will update you if I have some news..

    Regards

    Deanna

    Deanna

    17 September, 2008 at 12:29 AM

  27. Hi Deanna, thank you for your feedback!

    And congratulations to you too!

    I think your friend did that a long long time ago, probably around my time in March last year. Yes it was fast and I didn’t have such thing as appointment queues for dates which were months later!

    Deanna, i think its important you clarify this issue with both parties, from SG side and Malaysian side. Preferably by email first, so that you have some backup just in case any misunderstandings occur.

    Wish you all the best. Do let us know how you’re doing.

    Thank you!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    17 September, 2008 at 1:05 PM

  28. Hi, i am helping my mum for this whole renunciation process. i went down to high comm to get the form K and the form is actually in english. I thought i read somewhere its in Malay, anyone knows abt this? Hope i didnt get the wrong form…

    dan

    21 September, 2008 at 12:38 PM

  29. Hi Dan, the last time I completed the form, it was in Malay, which threw me off balance. As long as the Form has the words K and Renunciation in it, I think you should be fine.

    Maybe they’ve revamped the forms? Hopefully someone who has the recent form can shed some light on this.

    Thanks!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    21 September, 2008 at 3:24 PM

  30. Hi Chris,

    Thanks for the post,it’s very helpful.

    Btw, I kind of confused at one stage.

    1) Collection of form (Form “K” need to be keyed in with type writer?)

    2) Submit the application immediate or will be given a queue date for submission?

    3) When do we need to surrender Malaysia Passport & NRIC? (At the time of collecting the date or at time of submit application form “K”?

    4) What is the processing charges?

    5) Can we process Singapore passport while waiting for submission date? (Anyone know?)

    Thanks in advance,

    Cindy

    Cindy

    6 November, 2008 at 6:21 PM

  31. Hi Cindy,

    1) No requirement for Form K to be keyed in with type writer.

    The rest I’m not sure about and not in the position to advise because I’ve done it so long ago. Waiting times are crazy right now.

    Maybe someone can shed some light on this?

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    8 November, 2008 at 10:22 AM

  32. Thanks Chris.

    Hope someone will reply then =)

    Have a nice day!!

    Cheers,

    Cindy

    Cindy

    8 November, 2008 at 6:33 PM

  33. Thanks Cindy! I’m sorry I can’t be of much help.

    Do keep checking this page for replies.

    All the best!

    Regards,

    Chris

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    9 November, 2008 at 3:23 AM

  34. I just got my approval letter recently and attended the National Education Experience today. Was told by some of the people that the waiting list has gone to February. It makes me wonder if there are indeed that many Malaysian renouncing citizenship everyday, or it’s just a fluke to make things difficult for all of us. My Malaysian passport is expiring in 1.5 months. I definitely don’t want to pay 300 Ringgit to renew the passport only to give it up a month later. Sigh… Will make my first trip to High Commission next Tuesday to sort out all these paperworks. Will keep you guys updated.

    Chee Kam

    12 November, 2008 at 2:39 PM

  35. Hey CK, thanks for sharing this with us! Wishing you all the best on your trip down to high comm!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    13 November, 2008 at 12:26 AM

  36. I just went to the Malaysian High Comm this morning to obtain the Form K. My appointment date to submit the form is 2 Mar 2009!

    I’m supposed to produce all my previous expired passports, since birth till now. Wonder if they are still around or not. If can’t find, I’ll have to make a police report that they’re lost and show that police report during submission.

    By the way, there are 8 pages altogether in Form K, 7 of which are in English, but the last page is in Malay. I’ll have problem with that last page……

    CT

    13 November, 2008 at 4:35 AM

  37. hi, i juz got the approval letter from ICA for singapore citizen application.

    & i was told to do renounciation at Malaysia High Comm at Jervois Rd.

    I’ve read thru earlier notes was posted by those who’ve gone thru this process..

    however, i would like to know more information like :-

    1.Form K, is it the only place to collect (Mal High Comm)? is there anyway to download like website? how many photos required?

    2.once completed Form K, can i collect renounciation slip immediately?

    3.can i head down to ICA immediately once obtain a copy of renounciation slip/receipt? can i proceed to register IC with this slip?receipt?

    4.renounciation can be done at anytime 8am-11.30am or 2pm-4pm? or they hv specific time?

    appreciate your advise.

    thank you very much..

    ann

    Ann Poh-Hu

    13 November, 2008 at 5:57 AM

  38. hi, i juz got the approval letter from ICA for singapore citizen application.

    & i was told to do renounciation at Malaysia High Comm at Jervois Rd.

    I’ve read thru earlier notes was posted by those who’ve gone thru this process..

    however, i would like to know more information like :-

    1.Form K, is it the only place to collect (Mal High Comm)? is there anyway to download like website? how many photos required?

    2.once completed Form K, can i collect renounciation slip immediately?

    3.can i head down to ICA immediately once obtain a copy of renounciation slip/receipt? can i proceed to register IC with this slip?receipt?

    4.renounciation can be done at anytime 8am-11.30am or 2pm-4pm? or they hv specific time?

    appreciate your advise.

    thank you very much..

    ann

    Ann Poh-Hu

    13 November, 2008 at 5:58 AM

  39. hi, i juz got the approval letter from ICA for singapore citizen application.

    & i was told to do renounciation at Malaysia High Comm at Jervois Rd.

    I’ve read thru earlier notes was posted by those who’ve gone thru this process..

    however, i would like to know more information like :-

    1.Form K, is it the only place to collect (Mal High Comm)? is there anyway to download like website? how many photos required?

    2.once completed Form K, can i collect renounciation slip immediately?

    appreciate your advise.

    thank you very much..

    ann

    Ann Poh-Hu

    13 November, 2008 at 5:59 AM

  40. Hi Ann,

    1) You need to show your approval letter from ICA to collect the “Borang K” and get the appointment date for renunciation. No information on embassy website. 3 recent photograph in colour.

    2) On the appointment date provided, u will need to submit all the documents required and you will only be able to get your a letter stated “Proof of renunciation” after 7 working day.

    —————————————————————————

    This was given to me from the embassy via email:

    With regards to your renunciation, kindly call at the office personally during office hours Monday to Friday, 8 a.m. – 11 a.m. at 301 Jervois Road Singapore 249077 bringing along letter of approval from Singapore, ICA/ Birth Certificate/Malaysian NRIC to obtain the application form and to fix an appointment date to submit your application.

    Required documents for submission of renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship:

    I. Letter of Approval from Singapore Immigration & Checkpoints Authority (ICA) (Original and 2 photocopies)

    II. Malaysia NRIC/ Singapore Pink/Blue IC, if any (Original and 2 photocopies)

    III. Malaysian/Singapore Birth Certificate (Original and 2 photocopies). *Malaysian original birth certificate to be laminated.

    Note: For those born in Singapore are required to produce their ‘Borang W’ (Malaysian Citizenship Certificate), ‘Pengesahan Taraf’ (Confirmation of Status) or ‘Perakuan Taraf’ (Certificate of Status).

    IV. Malaysian Passport including expired passport.

    V. Photocopies of parents NRIC, Birth Certificate or Citizenship & Passport (To produce 2 copies each of the documents). These doc(s) are required for those:

    i) without Malaysian IC / Malaysian Citizenship Certificate

    ii) if any one of the parents is not Malaysian.

    If they have attained Singapore Citizenship, produce the Malaysian Renunciation Certificate (Form K)

    iii) age 21 & 22

    iv) born outside Malaysia

    VI. Those born before 31 August 1957 are required to produce his/her original Malaysian Citizenship Certificate or their parent’s original Malaysian citizenship certificate.

    VII. 3 recent colour photographs passport size.

    4. Please photocopy 2 sets of the said documents in Para 3 on A-4 size paper.The renunciation letter can be collected after 7 working days from the date of submission between 2.30pm – 4.00pm.

    CIndy

    15 November, 2008 at 6:56 AM

  41. Hi Cindy. Thank you so much for sharing. I’m sure a lot of us appreciate your info!

    The more well-informed everyone is, the easier it is to get things done. Thank you so much once again.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    15 November, 2008 at 9:37 AM

  42. Hi …

    anybody can help ? i just got the submission date of Borang K in end of feb 2009, but the thing is my passport expire in dec …. can i still stay in singapore without passport ? or can try to make the appt date earlier ?

    jasmine

    15 November, 2008 at 2:25 PM

  43. Hi…anyone has made police report for the lost of expired/cancelled Malaysia passports? Is it made in Singapore Neighbourhood Police will do? As I am not sure what is the expired/cancelled passport no., can I just report something like “all expired/cancelled passports prior to Current Passport No. could not be found”.

    Also do I need to mention the purpose of this police report like ‘required by Malaysian High Comm to report lost of expired/cancelled Malaysia passports’ for renunciation application’.

    Thank you.

    jacky

    16 November, 2008 at 1:10 AM

  44. Hi Chee Kam,

    Have you settle ypur issue? can give me update as i have same problem like you…

    thanks

    jasmine

    16 November, 2008 at 2:52 PM

  45. Hi everybody,

    You know this morning i sent my wife to High Comm to submit the documents,in the end we were told to come back on the 09 of march 2009 to submit.Wow Lau so horrible ask people to wait almost 4 months to process the documents, i don’t think so everyday got so many malaysians renounce their citizenship.Well, could anyone tell me is this true to wait so long????

    canny

    17 November, 2008 at 12:41 PM

  46. Hi Chris,

    Thanks for having such a nice blog to share =) Cheers!

    Cindy

    18 November, 2008 at 7:36 PM

  47. Hey Cindy you are welcome. Glad to have you share your experiences as well.

    I may not be able to answer those questions, but I figured out readers like you would be kind enough to help others out =D

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    19 November, 2008 at 4:07 AM

  48. I was at the high comm this morning and the queue had indeed reach March 2009. The officer said that there is no need to type, just write neatly. I clarify and she repeated. How confusing???

    Anonymous

    21 November, 2008 at 6:08 AM

  49. Anonymous : Typed forms are an indication that it has been filled up by WTLEE. There was never a need to type out the forms.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    22 November, 2008 at 1:48 AM

  50. hi all,

    I went to Msia high comm today 25 Nov to get Form K.

    My submission date is 06 March 2009. [ I wonder how come Canny's date is 09 March when he went there on 16 Nov)

    Today I also called up ICA - The number Chris given. Hotline ok, Waited for 30min then got someone pickup. They gave me another number to call.

    Anyway, the number to call is 6391 6309 /14 /16.

    Since I hv not attended NEE. So they can't accept my request to change Singapore Citizenship registration date. My NEE is on 18 Dec 2008.

    If you have attended NEE, & need to postpone Spore citizen registration date, pls do either 1 of the following :-

    1. Call ICA 6391 6309 /14 /16

    2. write to them (snail mail)

    3. fax to them - 6293 6956

    4. go to ICA - level 6

    For those who has problem fill up the form. I was sample pasted on the wall. [opposite the entrance. near to toilet]

    I hope this info helps.

    My question to those has renunce Malaysia Citizenship,

    do u close your Malaysia bank account ? EPF account ? sell your house / land in Malaysia ?

    Pls advise if you do any of the above.

    rgds,

    Natasha

    Natasha

    25 November, 2008 at 7:28 AM

  51. Thank you Natasha for the valuable information!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    25 November, 2008 at 10:32 AM

  52. I have to renounce my malaysian citizenship as well, i was born in singapore when both my parents were still malaysians. Just went down to collect the 8 pieces of papers to fill up including the borang ‘K’, any idea if i have to type it out using a typing machine?? And what to fill up for the certificate numbers/ID numbers.. can write my singapore ID number since i have no malaysian ID number? What is the s’pore citizenship application ref. number? only need to return my borang W and expired passports to the embassy since i dont have the other documents what about the mother’s birth cert & father’s citizenship certificate?

    benedict

    28 November, 2008 at 10:55 AM

  53. From what I am aware of, you do NOT need to type out the forms. Just write in BLACK pen to be safe. I hope the rest might be able to help you out with your other doubts.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    29 November, 2008 at 6:52 AM

  54. Jacky, have you done so already? how is the outcome?

    ——————————————————–

    jacky said:

    Hi…anyone has made police report for the lost of expired/cancelled Malaysia passports? Is it made in Singapore Neighbourhood Police will do? As I am not sure what is the expired/cancelled passport no., can I just report something like “all expired/cancelled passports prior to Current Passport No. could not be found”.

    Also do I need to mention the purpose of this police report like ‘required by Malaysian High Comm to report lost of expired/cancelled Malaysia passports’ for renunciation application’.

    EP

    30 November, 2008 at 2:52 AM

  55. thanks chris for clearing my doubt about the typing thing. Borang k need to find my malay friend to help.. Its damn troublesome.

    benedict

    30 November, 2008 at 8:46 AM

  56. benedict : You’re welcome. Be sure to fill in everything properly ok? No room for mistakes, trust me. I wish you all the best!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    30 November, 2008 at 2:29 PM

  57. hi! i just received a letter from ica instructing me to renounce my msian citizenship.

    do i have to wait a few months before submitting it by setting up an appointment date?

    is there any way to renounce it quicker eg: going into JB to do it?

    thanks!

    charmaine

    1 December, 2008 at 2:12 PM

  58. Perhaps this blog that i chanced upon could help clarify the procedures. A sample of the ‘K’ form is displayed there too.

    http://chillibabe76.multiply.com/journal/item/241/Renunciation_of_Malaysian_Citizenship_at_the_Malaysian_High_Comm_in_Singapore

    Meek

    28 December, 2008 at 2:57 PM

  59. Thanks Meek! Will post it up.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    29 December, 2008 at 4:40 PM

  60. Hi all,

    just need to know, if i don’t have my father photocopy IC, can i just show them my father’s death cert?

    thanks.

    joan

    30 December, 2008 at 1:54 PM

  61. do i have to go super early to queue in order to collect the borang K?

    R

    6 January, 2009 at 2:15 PM

  62. wait, meaning i have to have all the passport photos, photocopies of parents ID, birth certs and everything before i can go Malaysia high comm to queue for a number?

    im confused!

    R

    6 January, 2009 at 2:21 PM

  63. R,

    Oh yes! You need to be there super early. My experience was that MHC is supercrowded even before the opening hour.

    As for your 2nd question, if u juz want to obtain Borang K then juz bring your approval letter from ICA.

    Meek

    7 January, 2009 at 1:22 AM

  64. for the colour passport photograph, is it the one with blue background or white background?

    jimmy

    7 January, 2009 at 12:21 PM

  65. I got my citizenship application letter approved in Nov 08 and I went to High Comm. Guess my renounce date? 26th Nov 09. 4 months wait people. I was told by the lady that they only do renounciation 8-10am daily.

    I am absolutely amazed at the waiting time

    Jeannie

    9 January, 2009 at 1:11 PM

  66. Jeannie : Totally different from when I did mine in 2007. I guess this is due to the huge amount of people renouncing their Malaysian citizenship. This is the reason why we need to help one another and rely on really helpful kind souls (those who replied above) for clarification.

    My younger sister has to do hers in like a year’s time and I really don’t know what to expect. Rather, I dread it.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    9 January, 2009 at 3:02 PM

  67. thank you meek!

    jeannie: you mean if i go now, the queue is till Nov 09??

    can i afford to postpone my spore registration till so late?

    R

    10 January, 2009 at 11:39 PM

  68. hi chris and friends

    I just received my ICA approval letter.

    This is a fantastic blog which clears most of my doubts, I think we are still very helpful towards each other be it we are Malaysian or Singaporean (to be).

    Just need some help to confirm some issues, please help if you can.

    1. Chris can you email me the so call cannot publish info?

    2. Is the procedure now,

    i) Collect Form K at MHC, (must show ICA letter?), they will give us an appt date to submit documents, which is prob four months, that is April 2009?

    ii)We are still free to travel , (still hold our IC and Passport), until the appointment date, then our passport will be taken away?

    iii) we need to make police report for lost expired passport?

    iv) submit documents from 8 to 11am, collect letter about a week later?

    v) can go ICA after that.

    vi) what happen to my 4yrs old son? he does not need to renounce now? so is he still a citizen of Malaysia and can hold Malaysia Passport cos he does not need to renounce ? He can decide when he is 21?

    Thank you very much for your kind effort and reply.

    DT

    12 January, 2009 at 6:44 PM

  69. Hi DT,

    1. Very simple. Ask yourself this question, why do typewritten forms produced by WTLEE get accepted immediately without question?

    2. I’m glad you found this site useful, but I’m unable to provide any more assistance as I have finished the submission a long time ago. The waiting times now are horrendously long (if you read the replies). I hope the rest who are doing it now can be of some assistance to you.

    Do check back for replies.

    I wish you success!

    Regards,

    Chris

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    15 January, 2009 at 3:17 PM

  70. Hi,

    I think one point is missing from all the discussion. The form K from MHC is just a photocopy of the form K. On the appointment date, the forms will be checked and you will be issue a queue number and another 2 copies of the form K in which you had to fill it up (or to transfer from one form to the actual). I am just wondering if the forms from WTLEE is the actual forms (biege color), I do not know since I did not use their service. Adult to pay $6 and child $3.

    Anonymous

    20 January, 2009 at 5:04 AM

  71. Hi all, please help.

    I just received my ICA approval letter and managed to go down today to get the Form K, almost fainted when they told my submission date will be 4 months later from now which is 21-May-2009….

    In the Form K page 2, it mentioned I will need to fill in my father Malaysian Citizenship Cert.?

    Anyone can enlighten me what is this? is it his Malaysian IC?

    Do I really need to return this so call Malaysian Citizenship Cert. to MHC on the submission date? thanks in advance for your tme and help.

    small

    20 January, 2009 at 2:43 PM

  72. Louis was super helpful, i just gave him all my documents on the day i got my date from MHC and he settled everything for me, so now just have to wait for the day to arrive

    mun yung

    24 January, 2009 at 3:19 PM

  73. Mun yung,

    when is your appointment date? How much was Louis charge you for him to settle the forms?

    Anonymous

    27 January, 2009 at 3:36 PM

  74. Hi Chris,

    Do we need to go down personally to colect the form K ?

    Thanks !

    keltan8

    30 January, 2009 at 2:26 AM

  75. Hi Keltan,

    I believe you need to. But if you’re going through WTLEE then no need. He already has the forms.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    30 January, 2009 at 2:39 AM

  76. Hi Chris,

    The only problem of going thru WTLEE is they cannot book a appointment date for you. So after all, you still need to go MHC to get the form and book appointment date

    keltan8

    30 January, 2009 at 7:58 AM

  77. Sorry Chris, 1 more question :

    Can we go in the afternoon to get the form and book submission date ?

    Thanks and Happy Chinese New Year

    keltan8

    30 January, 2009 at 8:44 AM

  78. Hi Keltan,

    My apologies! (Sorry, this happened so long ago!) Yes we need the appointment date first. Then let WTLEE settle everything. They already have a soft-copy of Form K in their computers, so they can type and print it out for you.

    I’m not sure whether you can take it in the afternoons. Will probably have to call Malaysian High Comm to check out.

    Things have changed so much since I did my renunciation in mid-2007!

    I hope someone here is kind enough to pop by and give you some advice.

    Happy Chinese New Year to you too!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    30 January, 2009 at 9:51 AM

  79. hi Keltan8,

    I believe the appointment date, forms will be given and submition only in the morning while collection will be afternoon.

    It will be good if you can the trip to MHC personally, just show them the ICA approval letter, the officer will then give you the Form K and explain to you on the documents that needed, ask them if you have any doubts on anything and this will save lots of your time. :)

    Btw my appointment will 4 minths from now. :(

    Anonymous

    30 January, 2009 at 11:37 PM

  80. haha….I have forgotten to write my name before posting.

    small

    31 January, 2009 at 1:35 AM

  81. Hello all,

    To those who almost fainted when submission date given is few months down the road… I almost did too! -_-

    I went to collect my forms on 30th Jan and was given a date on 28th May! But because I will be away for 3 weeks in May for my honeymoon, I told the officer that perhaps we should rescheduled it to 5th Jun. At first she agreed to the date but then after some thoughts, she said she will check if she can plan for another date.

    To my surprise, she gave me a new date on 6th Apr! Can you imagine that? Well, if any of you gonna have a heart-attack for getting a long long date, maybe you can use this as a trick! Hahas..

    Hey Chris,

    Could you please advise me if original copy of Mother’s Birth Cert is required? My dad is deceased and the officer said just a photocopy of his Death Certificate is enough, is that true?

    I am leaving for my honeymoon on 10th May. If I managed to postpone my Oath of Renunciation with ICA to 6th Apr itself, how soon can I get my Singapore passport done? I supposed 1 month is sufficient enough to get everything settled? Also, is 1 trip to WTLEE enough to get the forms done?

    Thanks in advance!~ =)

    JoJo

    1 February, 2009 at 2:20 PM

  82. Hey Jojo,

    Glad you managed to get through this one!

    I would suggest you follow the officer’s instructions and provide his Death Certificate. There is no question about this one, if they ask, just give.

    I’m absolutely not sure how long it would take. The best answer to your question is to call up ICA and verify with them.

    Wish you all the best and lots of joy during your honeymoon!

    Regards,

    Chris

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    1 February, 2009 at 2:24 PM

  83. Hi Chris…

    Sorry me again…

    I was half way in ICA’s webbie trying to reschedule the date to take my Oath of Renunciation. Wanted to do it on the same day as my collection of Proof of Renunciation (is it confirmed 7 working days after submission of forms?), but stopped halfway because I am not sure if everything can be done on the same day.

    Is the Proof of Renunciation be collected in the morning time from MHC? Just collect and can leave? And how long is the Oath of Renunciation process at ICA?

    Thanks!~

    JoJo

    1 February, 2009 at 2:32 PM

  84. Hey Jojo,

    During my time, collection and oath can be done in the same day. I’m not sure about now.

    Oath of Renunciation at ICA is probably a 30 minute affair.

    Regards,

    Chris

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    1 February, 2009 at 2:36 PM

  85. Hi All,

    Just for info, I just go this morning to book appointment date to submit Form K and it is on 1st June 2009 (FAINTzzzz) !!! So pls hurry down if you have receive the letter !!

    Now no choice had to relax and find 1 day to go down WTLEE for filling the form …

    keltan8

    2 February, 2009 at 1:04 AM

  86. Kel,

    I applaud your decision to choose WTLEE. Don’t get me wrong, I have absolutely nothing to do with WTLEE. Out of desperation, I decided that WTLEE was my only chance at getting this over and done with.

    Tell me. Do you want to keep on making repeated visits there, queuing up at the counter, only to be told that your forms are incorrect (missing documents here and there)? It was out of desperation that I decided to dump the money at WTLEE and have them settle this matter once and for all.

    Glad you opted the easy way out.

    Regards,

    Chris

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    2 February, 2009 at 1:25 PM

  87. Hi, I am sharing some information here:

    1. The renunciation can be done at Pejabat Pendaftaran Negara (either state office or KL head office) in Malaysia. However, unless you have another foreign passport, it would be impossible to have the renunciation done at Malaysia as we are required to surrender our passport on the submission date.

    2. The renunciation letter will only be available for collection after 7 working days from the date of submission, therefore we may make the appointment for registration at ICA on the 8thday.

    3. Generally, Singapore passport will be ready for collection after 3 working days from the date of application.

    Lee

    5 February, 2009 at 2:39 AM

  88. Hi Lee,

    Thanks for your sharing. :)

    small

    6 February, 2009 at 3:03 PM

  89. I have renouce my malaysian citizenship and i did call the embassy and finally they took 4 month to go to Putra Jaya, then JPN , and i gave a proxy letter back in malaysia got my family to collect it . it took less the 4 months and syabas JPN was very good …good job

    shanti

    10 February, 2009 at 8:58 PM

  90. and yes you can apply for a passport with a another country once u are granted the countries citizenship. no problem.

    shanti

    10 February, 2009 at 9:00 PM

  91. I am not sure about singapore but like USA, Canada Australia , we can go to the embassy submit form k wait about 6 months only …the embassy has a bag which goes out every month.

    shanti

    10 February, 2009 at 9:03 PM

  92. Hi,

    I went this morning,my submission date for form K is end of June 09 … oh my god… that’s crazy :(

    Ooi

    19 February, 2009 at 2:48 AM

  93. I’ve just done my renunciation at the MHC this morning. I noticed that there is slight improvement in their system compared to what is described here.

    1. The forms are now ALL in English.

    2. Though the form ‘K’ needs to be filled in in Malay , the officer will help you to translate to the correct Malay (on the form you filled) and ask you to copy to the final ‘yellow form K’.

    3. I’ve lost 3 ot the old passtports. I made a report at the neighbourhood police station (with pastport numbers) and submitted the report MHC … It was OK.

    4. The only troublesome was that, I was asked to laminate another ‘extract of my birth cert obtained from home town (as I was a adapted child).

    I had to walk all the way to Blk 77 (~10min journey) and paid $5 to get it done.

    All in all the process is quite smooth … but the queue is L O N G …

    Simon

    20 February, 2009 at 5:45 AM

  94. Hi Simon,

    How long did you take for your renunciation process?

    Is it a must for us to include those misplace/lost postports in the police report? Thannks for your time…

    small8

    21 February, 2009 at 8:34 AM

  95. Hi Simon,

    How long did you take for your renunciation process?

    Is it a must for us to include those misplace/lost postports in the police report? Thannks for your time…

    small

    21 February, 2009 at 8:34 AM

  96. Hi Small,

    I’ve not gone through the whole “process” of renunciation yet.

    I’ve just submitted all the documents needed. Going there again 1 week later to collect the “Proof of Renunciation” letter. I’ve changed my ICA appointment to mid Mar.

    For the passport, what I did was included every single 1 that I have (2 international 2 restricted) because I had the number on my entry and re-entry permits when I applied for PR.

    I saw a person that day. He did not do so while submitting the documents, was asked to make the police report and go back again… sigh!

    Simon

    24 February, 2009 at 11:54 AM

  97. Hi Small,

    I’ve not gone through the whole “process” of renunciation yet.

    I’ve just submitted all the documents needed. Going there again 1 week later to collect the “Proof of Renunciation” letter. I’ve changed my ICA appointment to mid Mar.

    For the passport, what I did was included every single 1 that I have (2 international 2 restricted) because I had the number on my entry and re-entry permits when I applied for PR.

    I saw a person that day. He did not do so while submitting the documents, was asked to make the police report and go back again… sigh!

    Simon

    24 February, 2009 at 11:54 AM

  98. Hi Simon,

    Thnaks for your reply. How long did it take for you to submit all the documents at MHC?

    MHC told me it will likely take about 7~10 working days to collect the “Proof of Renunciation” letter from them. Appreciated if you can update me the actual days.:) I believed the collection process will take less than half an hour bah.

    Btw, I still have not go to make the police report.

    small

    26 February, 2009 at 7:20 PM

  99. HI Small ,

    I thought the submission process should be short too … but my submission process took me about 2 hr (including quing , laminating my cert, re-photo copy my IC as they said it’s not clear enough :-( … ). I arrived around 8am+ and left at 10am+. I was the 10th in the queue and each one in front of me took 5 to 10 min. I believe if you go early enough, you should get a small que number … and of course lesser waiting time. :-)

    MHC is correct. I did my submission last week and the receipt to collect the letter indicated next Wednesday (only 7 working day indeed).

    Regarding the police report, it should be fast if the officer in chrage knows what you need.

    One important point to note : Fill in ALL documents required and sign accordingly, submit what ever is asked in the A5 noticed … things will be smoother.

    All the best !

    Simon

    Simon

    27 February, 2009 at 6:14 PM

  100. HI Small ,

    I thought the submission process should be short too … but my submission process took me about 2 hr (including quing , laminating my cert, re-photo copy my IC as they said it’s not clear enough :-( … ). I arrived around 8am+ and left at 10am+. I was the 10th in the queue and each one in front of me took 5 to 10 min. I believe if you go early enough, you should get a small que number … and of course lesser waiting time. :-)

    MHC is correct. I did my submission last week and the receipt to collect the letter indicated next Wednesday (only 7 working day waiting time indeed). So … if you submit on 21st May, the date to collect should be 2nd Jun.

    Regarding the police report, it should be fast if the officer in chrage knows what you need.

    One important point to note : Fill in ALL documents required and sign accordingly, submit what ever is asked in the A5 notice, things will be smoother.

    I believe all your form are in English since your date is later than mine.

    All the best !

    Simon

    Simon

    27 February, 2009 at 6:25 PM

  101. Hi Simon,

    Once again thanks.

    I have changed my submition date to 04-May at MHC and ICA appointment date to 14-May afternoon 3:15pm, I wonder if I will have enough time to collect the “Proof of Renunciation” letter and rush to ICA….

    FYI, my last piece of form still in Malay and I had not problem with that. :)

    small

    28 February, 2009 at 7:11 AM

  102. Hi Small,

    Your schedule is too agressive. Guess what, the collection of the “Proof of Renunciation ” letter only starts in the afternoon 2:30PM on the appointment date. If MHC gives you the appointment on 14th May … you’ll have problem on your ICA appointment.

    Regards,

    simon

    Simon

    2 March, 2009 at 10:00 AM

  103. my appt date is 14 may and the officer asked me to change my ICA appt to 28 may. but i think i better be safe and postpone to a later date.

    i need to laminate my birth cert right?

    wen

    3 March, 2009 at 8:16 AM

  104. Hi simon,

    Thanks for your advice, btw ICA allowed us to make change for two times, If really not able to make it on time then I will change to a suitable date after my submition.

    Hi Wen,

    Yes, we will need to laminate our BC. :)

    samll

    4 March, 2009 at 6:32 AM

  105. Hi!

    My citizenship application was approved on 23 Dec 2008. I went down to Msia High Comm in Jan 2009. They gave me 12 May 2009 (5months down the road)… haiz…Anyway, I reschedule to take the oath of renounciation at ICA to 28 May 2009.

    Just wanna check, does it mean on 12 May 2009, after submitting all my docs, I will not be able to get out of Singapore until I apply & receive my Singapore passport?

    Can I apply Singapore passport, or I can only apply after my citizenship is approve? How long will it take?

    Thanks so much,

    Jacee

    jacee

    4 March, 2009 at 2:15 PM

  106. Hi….just thought I shd share some pointers based on my recnt experience :

    - for missing passports, the police report shd refer to the number of the missing passport prior to yr oldest available one…check last page of passport to locate the number. In my case, police officer advised not possible to make general statement of “all prior passport”s missing”" becos not specific enuf;

    - parents docs – at submission, officer only asked for photopies and not the originals altho wise to bring along just in case;

    - when stating ICA approval number in the MHC forms, state the full reference number and just the numbers ie. start with RCA etc etc…..;

    - when collecting acknowledgement letter, cld collect ltr earlier than the stated 2.30pm….2pm seemed ok…nice friendly folks;

    - in the forms, place of issue of M’sian IC shd be P. Jaya and not the state where you come from. I reckon that means Putera Jaya……

    hope the above helps……good luck folks!!

    cheers..

    grumps

    4 March, 2009 at 10:52 PM

  107. Hi Small,

    Agreed with Grumps, the collection of “Proof of Renunciation ” can be earlier. I went there at 2:20pm yesterday and left at 3pm. There are people in front of me who went earlier and left earlier. So you can go earlier and should be able to meet your 3:15pm ICA appointment. :-)

    To Jacee,

    Yes. After you submit all your Malaysia doc’s & passports you can’t go overseas untill you get your Singapore Passport. So , you need to arrange your appointment with ICA to get your Singapore IC at least 8 working days after the date your submit your doc’s. (eg your’s on 14th May, ICA appoint on 27th or 28th(safer)). On 28th after you get your Singapore IC you can apply for Passport immediately and within 3 working days it will be ready. i.e your can get your passport on 4th Jun latest.

    Simon

    5 March, 2009 at 10:23 AM

  108. Hi Grumps and Simon,

    Many thanks for your useful infos, still have two more months to go.

    I will go there earlier with my family (4 of us)… :). Hopefully my “Proof of Renunciation” letters can be collected on 7th working days. I may consider to change ICA appointment date if it is too rush…..

    small

    5 March, 2009 at 8:58 PM

  109. Hi, all. I have one question to ask: After collect “proof of renunciation” and registered with ICA, am I already became singapore citizen?

    Or it had to wait until final renunciation letter from malaysia ,which might take 2 years to complete?

    hiew

    7 March, 2009 at 11:27 PM

  110. hi friends,

    i am going to MHC to submit my documents on 10 March.

    Can any one help if you have experience in the following ?

    1. Do I need my dad death cert as he passed away 30 years ago, dont think I have that.

    2. My son need not renounce his citizenship as he is minor, and I was told that he can hold dual citizenship till 21. Anyone has the same situation?

    If he can keep his Malaysian passport, which passport should he use when he travel to Malaysia? Will he has a problem with Malaysia side, when he needs to do his Malaysia IC?

    3. DO we need to rush to ICA to do the oath or can wait till next day? No confidence with them so I have not make appt with ICA yet. will do so only after submission and have a confirm date to collect letter. Do you guys thinks this is the right thing to do?

    Many thanks in advance.

    Desmond

    8 March, 2009 at 2:30 AM

  111. Hi hiew,

    You will become a truely Singaporen after make oath at ICA but to finalise the whole renunciation process, we have to submit Form K from HCM to ICA which will be about two years time from the date of start of renunciation process.

    small

    8 March, 2009 at 8:20 AM

  112. Hi Desmond,

    It might be to late to answer you since your submission is next Tue.

    Q1, If I remembered correctly, you may not need to submit your dad’s death certificate, but to be sure, better call MHC to check..

    Q2. I think we all have to submit the passport back to MHC including the minor and your son will become a Singaporean after the oath. Just that when he reach 21, he will give an option to choose between M and S, if he choose S then he will need to do same thing as you do now. 

    Q3. You can make oath anytime, not necessary to be the same day. For my case I will the passport travel back to Malaysia. Please bear in mind for ICA appointment, we will only allow to make change for 2 times. I wonder what was your original appt date for ICA?

    Lastly, I may had made a wrong statement on the above and please share your experience after your submission, thanks.

    small

    8 March, 2009 at 9:21 AM

  113. Hi Deamond,

    Just to check with you on ‘Form K’ page 1, what did you fill up for the below secton?

    I,the undersigned, a Malaysian Citizen by Operaion of Law/Registration/Naturalization/Certificate No.___________ (attached herewith) conscientiously wish to renounce my Malaysian Citizenship as I have acquired a Singapore Citizenship….

    Please advise and many thanks.

    small

    8 March, 2009 at 9:33 AM

  114. Hi Desmond,

    Just to check with you on ‘Form K’ page 1, what did you fill up for the below secton?

    I,the undersigned, a Malaysian Citizen by Operaion of Law/Registration/Naturalization/Certificate No.___________ (attached herewith) conscientiously wish to renounce my Malaysian Citizenship as I have acquired a Singapore Citizenship….

    Please advise and many thanks.

    small

    8 March, 2009 at 9:34 AM

  115. hi des and small….based on my experience :

    - death cert – MHC wanted copy but did not ask to see original. if original lost, you may want to make police report just in case…to save time.

    - the number to fill in for the para mentioned – i inserted birth cert no eg. B123456..etc. that cleared.

    good luck..cheers.

    grumps

    8 March, 2009 at 12:26 PM

  116. Hiew : I’m waiting for the renunciation letter right now. Only then is the renunciation process considered complete.

    small : You’re absolutely right about the two years. Sigh, very long wait.

  117. grumps : Once again thanks.

    chris: have no choice, two years really a long wait. :)

    small

    8 March, 2009 at 5:52 PM

  118. Hi you folks really check this site and reply fast.

    Thanks so much.

    Hi small

    thanks for the prompt respond. FYI, i am trying to fill up the form now.

    do you fill up the last section after point 9) Agama for the Borang K (form in Malay) dont know how to fill up.

    my original appointment date is 2 March. I have cancelled it and will only confirm the appointment date after i submitted my doc and get a confirmation on when i can get the letter.

    anyway if change more than 2 times, den will need to call ICA and schedule appt, den no priority will be given.

    grumps, thanks for the info,

    not sure if i still have my dad cert number cos he passed away 30 years ago, anyway, i was told by the officer when i collect the form, only need a parents IC photocopy will do.

    The singh lady (i think so) is quite helpful in this area.

    also curious if i have many passports, what number to fill in? the lastest passport?

    Will keep you folks updated if got any new findings. hopefully smooth sailing.

    Desmond

    9 March, 2009 at 12:17 AM

  119. small : It’s one of those things you will need to do ONCE IN A LIFETIME.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    9 March, 2009 at 3:10 AM

  120. Hi guys,

    I happened to chance upon this informative site while trying to look for clarification for some stuff.. I’m (like everyone here) gonna turn 21 this weekend and will soon begin this long journey of renouncing my citizenship and am grateful for all the information here..

    However, I was hoping someone would be able to help me clear my query:

    I am already a Singapore Citizen (with Certificate of Citizenship, Pink IC and Singapore Passport valid until 6 months after my 21st bday), turning 21 this weekend (so appt probably in Aug 09?).. I am currently planning a trip to Australia in late Apr 09 with my friend who is in the exact same situation as me.. So I am trying to find out if I am able to travel overseas using my MALAYSIA PASSPORT after I turn 21 but before my appointments to renounce my malaysian citizenship since I’m able to travel out of sg with my sg pp that has less than 6 months to expiry..

    I went to ICA today and spoke to an officer there and was told to approach MHC for help on this.. She mentioned another alternative would be to pay $70 to extend my sg pp till one month before my 22nd birthday (FEB 2010)..

    Anyone has experience of travelling overseas (not msia) after you turn 21 but before renouncing your citizenship?

    Hopefully someone can help me with this! =)

    Jackson

    9 March, 2009 at 7:49 PM

  121. i renewed my malaysia p/p in Jan09 and travelled to Phuket last week.

    Will be going to appt at MHC tomorrow.

    Desmond

    10 March, 2009 at 1:18 AM

  122. Hi Chris ,

    So .. you’ve got your pink IC and Singapore P/P ?

    Hi Small,

    Just taken my oath at ICA this morning (in 45min) and submited my p/p application. Should be able to get my p/p next week!

    All the best to all!

    Simon

    10 March, 2009 at 6:35 PM

  123. Hi Desmond,

    For the last page of Borang K point (9) Agama, just write ‘BUDDha’ will do. :)

    small

    10 March, 2009 at 9:14 PM

  124. Hi Simon..query….when you took your oath at ICA, did they give you a copy?

    cheers,

    grumps

    grumps

    10 March, 2009 at 9:55 PM

  125. Hi Grumps,

    I brought the set of “proof of renunciation” letter + a set of photocopies, + 4 passport size photos (must be white background, the one taken in MHC is not accepted).

    They took my blue IC , 3 photos, the letter + photocopy.

    4th photo was used to apply the passport (fixed on the application form and dropped into the collection box)

    After the oath, I got the “temporary IC” (just a piece of paper with photo), and got back the following :

    The orignial “proof of renunciation” letter

    My blue IC (with a hole pounched at the corner)

    Simon

    11 March, 2009 at 2:04 PM

  126. Hi Simon,

    Just curious, when will you get your pink ic ? :)

    small

    11 March, 2009 at 6:40 PM

  127. Thanks Simon – my experience was exactly the same as yours. After I got back, it just struck me as odd that I wasn’t given a copy of the öath”document for file record. Some friend who did his many years back got a copy of that doc but can’t recall how he got it. Just wondering…..if we will get a copy.

    Small – the officer told me that we will get the pik IC bet 3-6 mths time when we get called up for the community centre event.fyi……cheers.

    grumps

    12 March, 2009 at 12:28 AM

  128. Hi grumps,

    Ic…thanks for sharing…

    If everything goes smooth, I will going to Malaysia after my oath. :)

    small

    12 March, 2009 at 6:59 AM

  129. Hi Small,

    Yap, Grumps is right, they asked me to wait for the call or letter will be sent to me by the GRC people. Anyway, the passport is more important. You can use it for any identity verification asked by bank etc.

    Hi Grumps ,

    The Oath document is not suppose to be kept by us I believe.

    I noticed there are changes to the process and documents needed. (eg last time the original NS examption letter is required but now not mentioned at all for male PR to convert)

    Simon

    12 March, 2009 at 10:03 AM

  130. i was overwhelmed with all the sharing!! thank you folks!!

    lost

    13 March, 2009 at 9:45 PM

  131. can anyone advice if going to MHC at 7 am to get the queue is too early or too late? i am heavily pregnant…..

    lost

    13 March, 2009 at 9:48 PM

  132. can anyone kindly advice what time i should go there to “queue” for the appointment date and get the form? is 7 am right? am heavily pregnant…….

    lost

    13 March, 2009 at 9:50 PM

  133. Hi lost,

    Not later 8am shall be fine.

    small

    14 March, 2009 at 5:38 AM

  134. thanks small for the reply – you are GREAT !!!

    lost

    15 March, 2009 at 8:07 AM

  135. Hi lost,

    you are welcome…The crowd will start about 9am. :)

    small

    15 March, 2009 at 8:21 AM

  136. Hi Guys,

    Thanks so much for the info posted on the net. I just received my approval yesterday too for my whole family (Me, wifey and 2 children).

    Correct me if I’m wrong, so in summary, the sequence of the process should be:

    1) Get the renunciation form from the MHC and book the submission date (Just 1 person can go and collect the form? Do I need all the checklisted document at the top of this post at the time of collecting the Borang K and make the appointment?)

    2) Call ICA to inform them the appointed submission date so that the can rearrange the oath to sometime 2 weeks after then appointment date so that there’s ample time to collect the prove of renunciation slip.

    3) Attend the orientation cource conducted by Singapore gov

    4) Go to MHC again on the appointed submission date itself

    5) Collect the prove of renunciation slip from MHC after 7 ~ 10 days

    6) Go ahead with the oath, apply IC and passport. From this point on, we are true Singaporean citizen

    7) Wait for 2 years to get the official certificate of renunciation and needs to be submitted to the ICA.

    Thanks

    John

    18 March, 2009 at 8:04 AM

  137. Hi Guys,

    Thanks so much for the info posted on the net. I just received my approval yesterday too for my whole family (Me, wifey and 2 children).

    Correct me if I’m wrong, so in summary, the sequence of the process should be:

    1) Get the renunciation form from the MHC and book the submission date (Just 1 person can go and collect the form? Do I need all the checklisted document at the top of this post at the time of collecting the Borang K and make the appointment?)

    2) Call ICA to inform them the appointed submission date so that the can rearrange the oath to sometime 2 weeks after then appointment date so that there’s ample time to collect the prove of renunciation slip.

    3) Attend the orientation cource conducted by Singapore gov

    4) Go to MHC again on the appointed submission date itself

    5) Collect the prove of renunciation slip from MHC after 7 ~ 10 days

    6) Go ahead with the oath, apply IC and passport. From this point on, we are true Singaporean citizen

    7) Wait for 2 years to get the official certificate of renunciation and needs to be submitted to the ICA.

    Thanks

    John

    18 March, 2009 at 8:04 AM

  138. Hi John,

    First of all, congratulations!

    1) Yes, 1 person will do. Collect the Borang K for your family from MHC asap and get the submission date. Those checklist documents only needed during the submission of borang K.

    2) Need not call ICA to rearrange appointment date for the oath, you can change it online and the link was provided in the bottom part of ICA approval letter.

    3) Attend the orientation cource conducted by Singapore gov -> YES

    4) Go to MHC again on the appointed submission date itself -> YES, submission is in the morning (8~11am)

    5) Collect the prove of renunciation slip from MHC after 7 ~ 10 days -> YES, 7~10 working days, collect them in the afternoon (2~4pm)

    6) & 7) You are absolutely right, cheers!!

    small

    18 March, 2009 at 9:44 PM

  139. Hi John,

    For Q2, you will only allow to change it online for two times, more than that you have to call ICA personally.

    small

    18 March, 2009 at 11:09 PM

  140. Thanks small!

    Will head down to ICA today morning…

    John

    19 March, 2009 at 7:17 AM

  141. I wonder is there any case of Singapore citizenship being revoked when the official renunciation cert was not given out after more than 2 years, like one of the case in the early entry of this blog….

    John

    19 March, 2009 at 7:20 AM

  142. Just got my wife to get the Borang K and booked the submission date. I was 28th July. It seems, those old passport that were lost is OK, don’t need make a police report. However, other than birth certs, all other document in Malay need to be translated to English, she heard?!?! I hope she heard wrongly.

    John

    19 March, 2009 at 10:43 AM

  143. Hi John,

    No harm go to make the police report for lost/misplaced passport, it will save our time. What if they need it and you will have to make another date for the submission.

    Since Bahasa is our official language, it will be a big joke if the document in Malay need to be translated to English, please coorect me if I was wrong on this.

    small

    19 March, 2009 at 10:27 PM

  144. Yup, told my wife to go and make the police on the school holiday. By the way, would they need the restricted passport too? I lost mine about 9 years ago.

    John

    20 March, 2009 at 10:44 PM

  145. Yes, concerning the translation issue, I grilled my wife to further clarify and she said she’s not sure now.. Haha… Definitely if any translation is needed, it should be to malay.

    John

    20 March, 2009 at 10:54 PM

  146. Hi John,

    Yup, please also include those lost/misplaced restricted passports in the police report.

    small

    20 March, 2009 at 11:11 PM

  147. hi i am going to ICA to take my oath tmr.

    Just like to share my exp with the renun process.

    All details here very updated.

    I did not fill up some items like my dad ic, and date of issue etc, Was OK.

    Filled up FORM K (Last page) in English, the gal at MHC helped me to amedn it in Malay and gave me a new Yellow Form K to fill up again. THe white form is a photocopy, the Yellow form is original. She was VERY helpful.

    No questions asked about my passport, as I had all 10 of them. Just need to make police report if lost, it does not appear to me that they check my passport.

    Fast process for submission as he just collect, thumb print and issue note to collect. Sumitted 10 Mar, collected 19 March, 7 working days.

    I just cancel my ICA appt online and leave it blank as I was worried MHC gave problem, I only log on and get appt after I submitted documents and got the confirmation slip to collect the letter from MHC. Anyway I think ICA has ample appointment. I can actually go on the same day but I am going tmr.

    Basically smooth process in submission and collection, dont see any translation required lei. Somehow got the feeling that they are so happy to help us to renounce our citizenship.

    lost, get yr husband to collect the form for you, anyway the guard is quite good, will open the gate for needy like family with kid and pregnant lady.

    anyone has any idea what to do with our Malaysia Driving licence?

    Was told that bank accounts and credit cards just need to update them with Singapore NRIC.

    Desmond

    23 March, 2009 at 12:19 AM

  148. Can anyone share, is it possible to claim any backdated benefits/tax rebate, etc. for any of our family member from Singapore gov after getting citizenship?

    Thanks

    John

    23 March, 2009 at 9:59 AM

  149. Hi guys

    Just wanna share my experience..

    Date of submission to ICA: 25 Jul 08

    Date of approval fm ICA: 13 Mar 09

    I received my approval letter from ICA on 18 Mar 09 and went to MHC on 20 Mar 09 to get my appt date.. i requested for an earlier appt date as i m 7mth pregnant now.. and yes, they let me to submit my doc on 9 Apr 09 (Luckily i brought along my medical letter).

    And i was exempted to attend NEE conducted by ICA too.

    - Never know tt preg woman got so much privilleges : )

    Anyway, timing seem a bit tight for me.. hopefully everything go smoothly and i m able to take my oath by end-Apr.

    Che

    23 March, 2009 at 12:33 PM

  150. My application process with ICA was pretty fast. I submitted in late September 2008 and received the approval letter in late January 2009.

    Lee

    24 March, 2009 at 6:00 PM

  151. Wow… That was fast… Mine was submitted on end September too and got it on mid March. My wife’s colleague went to submit on the same day as us has yet to receive any reply.

    John

    25 March, 2009 at 10:18 AM

  152. Hi Lee & John

    Both ur applications took a shorter processing time.. dun know why..

    Btw, i only applied with my child, my hubby remain PR. Not sure if it affect their consideration.

    Che

    25 March, 2009 at 12:27 PM

  153. I think those who convert with the whole family got it faster. My wife’s friend called ICA. It seems that was the case.

    John

    25 March, 2009 at 6:15 PM

  154. i applied with son on Oct 08 and got approval early Jan 09.

    but i was here for 30+ yrs…

    Desmond

    26 March, 2009 at 2:25 AM

  155. I applied for my wife and our two kids as well. What John said may be right. I has been working here for 9 years.

    Lee

    26 March, 2009 at 8:51 AM

  156. Desmond, I have already converted my M’sia driving licence into Singapore driving licence in January 2009 before I went for the renunciation yesterday.

    The conversion is very simple, just enrol with any driving center and take the basic theory test. Thereafter, obtain a letter from M’sia JPJ and submit the same to Traffic Police counter (located at the driving centre)

    Lee

    26 March, 2009 at 9:02 AM

  157. Hi everyone!

    My wife and kid got the approval for Spore citizenship after waiting almost 7 months. Collected Borang K from MHC 2 days ago and submission in Aug and found out the following from the staff.

    1. Borang K can be filled using handwriting but form says must use type. I have 2 friends who pay people to fill up the form to avoid fill wrongly. Do I really need too?

    2. Minor is now allowed dual citizenship. Called up ICA and they said Spore allowed dual citizenship for person 21 yrs and below after which need to choose one. According to them, if Msia doesn’t allow means kids also must renounce. But i heard some ppl didn’t renounce their kids msia citizenship. Confuse?

    3. Previous passport no need to make police report. Just have to bring whatever you have.

    Anyone can help? Thanks

    Chris Sim

    29 March, 2009 at 12:10 PM

  158. Hi Chris and all,

    I’m so glad to have found your inputs here, as I’m quite lost.

    I have just received my letter of approval from ICA yesterday.

    When you guys say to bring present and expired passports, does it mean, ALL expired passports since my first passport when I was a baby? Or just my current and the previous expired passport?

    I’m born in Singapore with a Singapore birth Cert. And for sure I do not have a ‘Borang W’ (Malaysian Citizenship Certificate), ‘Pengesahan Taraf’ (Confirmation of Status) or ‘Perakuan Taraf’ (Certificate of Status). What happens then?

    Do you think if I call the MHC in Singapore and speak in English, they will be willing to help me? Otherwise, can someone give me an email address to write too?

    Thanks in advance!

    SM

    29 March, 2009 at 12:57 PM

  159. Hi SM

    FYI, Msia HC email add is mwspore@singnet.com.sg

    I wrote to them before regrdg my lost expired passport.. the reply is:

    Renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship

    I wish to refer to your email dated 28 July 2008 on the above.

    2. With regards to your lost expired passport , kindly lodge a police report at any Singapore Police Post.

    U may email them, in my past experience, their respond is quite fast, usually within 3 working days.

    As for the birth cert, my daughter is born in Spore in 2007 but she is not born as Singaporean, so, we gotta register her birth at Msia HC (need to do it before i can apply for Msia passport for her), they gave me Borong W, it serve as her birth cert.

    Thanks.

    Che

    30 March, 2009 at 9:27 AM

  160. Anyone can advise me, can I collect the Form K and get appointment date for my mother? How long is the q time to get the form? Cos intend to go down during lunch time.

    Joanne

    30 March, 2009 at 4:24 PM

  161. Hi Che,

    Thanks for the info! I probably will have to lodge a police report then, coz I’m missing my ex, ex passport.

    Actually I wonder why they expect us to keep our expired passports, I mean, once it’s expired, it means it can never be used anymore and is practically useless, means can be thrown away right? Sigh…

    Thanks again!

    SM

    30 March, 2009 at 9:22 PM

  162. Hi, just completed my renunciation at MHC and registration of citizenship at ICA yesterday.

    I arrived MHC at 2pm and collected the letter at 2.35pm. Thereafter, head for ICA immediately for my 3.15pm appointment. Finished the registration process at ICA at 4.30pm

    Lee

    4 April, 2009 at 2:28 PM

  163. Hi Joanne,

    Collection of Form K + making an appointment date for the submission is to be done in the morning at the MHC consular office between 8.30am to 11am, bring along the letter of approval from ICA. Please try to go before 9.30am or be faced with the likelihood of being asked to go back again. Q up and get your forms from counter 4, the nice Singh aunty will explain to you the things you need to submit.

    A note for all before going to MHC, check to make sure that its not a Msia PH. They are closed on PH of both countries!!

    Just did my renunciation. Total process took about 3 months. =)

    End Dec08: get form K, make appt. Fill in the forms myself.

    Mid Mar09: Submit form K, collected renunciation acknowledgement (not the final letter) after 11 days on 24th.

    End Mar09: Take oath of allegiance at ICA, collected temp SG IC.

    Jol

    5 April, 2009 at 1:58 PM

  164. Most of us are very confused by Form K because its all in Malay. I decide to post the translation for everyone’s benefit. No, I don’t understand Malay either but I got nice colleagues who do and helped me with it.

    Top paragraph 1st blank “blah blah blah sijil bernombor….” -your BIRTH CERT NO.

    2nd blank “blah blah blah seorang warganegara” – write SINGAPURA

    1. Nama penuh YOUR FULL NAME

    2. Nama lain ALIAS

    3. Nombor kad pengenalan MALAYSIAN IC NO. Tempat dikeluarkan PLACE OF ISSUE

    4. Alamat SINGAPORE HOME ADDRESS

    5. Jantina GENDER (Male=LELAKI, Female=PEREMPUAN)

    6. Tarikh lahir DATE OF BIRTH

    7. Tempat lahir PLACE OF BIRTH (If malaysia, indicate the State eg. Johor)

    8. Bangsa RACE (chinese=CINA)

    9. Agama RELIGION

    Hope this helps.

    Jol

    5 April, 2009 at 2:14 PM

  165. Hi,

    Find this wedside very useful.I am going to MHC tomorow morning(07/04/09) to obtain form k & appointment, heard my friend went last 2 week, she obtain the apointment date on JULY… Hopefully I can get same period as well. In that case I got to cancel my appointment with ICA in which around end of june. By the way, once I get the appontment date, I can ask the Louis Ma to fill in the form for me?

    Saggitarius

    6 April, 2009 at 10:31 PM

  166. Can someone update the current price WTLEE is charging? Anyone been to his services?

    Saggitarius might need this info, in case she/he gets mis-quoted.

    Thanks!

  167. The appointment for submission of Form K is already for August 2009 when I was at MHC to collect my proof of renunciation last Friday (3 April).

    Unless you are lucky and able to give a good reason, the Singh lady there might schedule an earlier date for you.

    Lee

    7 April, 2009 at 8:55 AM

  168. Hi Chris,

    Thanks.I just came back to obtain the form and yes Lee was correct, the submission date is already until 20 Aug.The Singh lady today not in good mood so I unable to get earlier date.

    I reach MHC around 7.15am, not much people,exchange pass at guard house went to right hand side of the MHC.In the consulor room, the Singh lady start to give out form around 7.40am.After I get the form , I straigh away go to WTLEE to ask Louis to help to fill in the form by using computer as he have the format of the form in his computer, you just need to provide him information so I suggest before go to WTLEE to fill in the form to bring along all the document in which need to submit together with the form in order Louis to help you to complete the form, he also need extra information such as qualifications,year,qualification obtained, name of the school, employment history and reason to renouncing malaysian citizenship. He charges me S$30.00 incl lamination of the birth cert.

    So now I just need to get all the docunment photocopies 2 set and wait for the day to come.

    Will keep it update. Hope above can help others as well. CHEERS…

    Saggitarius

    7 April, 2009 at 10:36 AM

  169. I think we can be there anytime (morning or afternoon) for obtaining the forms and making appointment.

    Last time, I went there to get the form and appointment at 1.50pm. The Singh lady starts giving the q numbers and forms at 2.00pm (notwithstanding the office hour for afternoon session starts at 2.30pm). I got the form and appointment date within 10 mins.

    My initial submission date was end-May but I explained to her that I need to travel around that period. The Singh lady was very nice and agreed to schedule my submmission date to end-March.

    Lee

    7 April, 2009 at 1:55 PM

  170. Hi Saggitarius, thanks for sharing too! Your advice will help a lot of people.

    So the current charge is $30.

    IMHO, very reasonable. Super convenient right?! My sister’s renunciation is coming up next and I’ll head straight to WTLEE. $30 is nothing compared to the hours spent figuring out how the heck to fill in the forms, collecting the documents, only to be told that the submission is incomplete : PLEASE COME BACK ANOTHER DAY!

    Argh! Glad to hear that your renunciation has been smooth so far and I wish you all the best!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    7 April, 2009 at 4:56 PM

  171. Hi Lee,

    I think today is not my day then as today the Singh lady really not in good mood, I ask nicely can i get earlier day before giving any reason, she shout out:got to follow our timing, you dun wan, I give you november date, you want?, I quickly get the form then out from there, wonder can i go back again to tell her to re-schedule the timing as I got to wait 4 month to get this thing done really troublesome. Anyone got any suggestion?

    Hi Chris,

    Thanks and wish your sister can get done smoothly as well.

    Saggitarius

    7 April, 2009 at 9:34 PM

  172. hi folks

    the forms are in English and need not be type. Can fill in with Blue or Black pen, it take you less than 15 minutes to fill.

    I did it myself, missed out certain info like my dad’s citizenship cert, and still clear. they dun really border and i dont see anybody being turned away lei.

    They are quite friendly and helpful, give me the impression that they happily help you out of My.

    My son did not renounce his My citizen and is holding 2 passports now. Sg told us to use Sg p/p, M’sia said once you take up Sg , cannot make ic, renew passport etc, as good as need to give up except i worry they will face problem when SG need him to renounce when he is 21 (he is 5 now)

    Chris Sim, you can update if you have any info on this.

    Anyway, chris, better go and make a police report as it dun cost a cent and you at least cover your back, u never know if they ask u to come back again. thou i dun think they really check the p/p.

    Desmond

    8 April, 2009 at 2:37 AM

  173. I had the same experience as Desmond. The Singh lady has been very friendly and helpful throughout the whole process (obtain form, submission and collection).

    Ya, agree with Desmond, the forms are in English and quite easy to complete. There is only one form in Malay which Jol has translated it in his/her earlier post (5 Apr). If doubt, you can also always check with Singh lady or refer to the samples pasted in the Consular room’s wall…and that will save you $30/-….: )

    Lee

    8 April, 2009 at 8:49 AM

  174. Hi,

    Ya, the form can be fill by hand written but pls remember to write NEATLY as was told by someone that the form is required by S’pore government?? Anywhere as the form is very important in order to complete the process of renunciation in which the complete of the process will be after 2 years after the msia give you the final cert. of the renunciation and your birth cert and the cert. have to give to ICA.

    Saggitarius

    8 April, 2009 at 10:50 AM

  175. Hi! I found a quick and easy way to get renunciation of malaysian citizenship within 2 hours. it beats waiting the current queue of 5 months to get your renunciation slip.

    if you’re 21 and above, you only need personal documents. do not need your parent’s information/id at all.

    please check my URL page for step-by-step guide:

    http://ponponpatapon.wordpress.com

    look for Renouncing Malaysian Citizenship, the quick and easy way.

    Estee

    12 April, 2009 at 11:50 PM

  176. If the appoitment for the renounication is 5 months… How to bring forward to the date?

    kim

    17 April, 2009 at 8:44 PM

  177. Thank you guys for all the information. I sort of got the gist of the whole process by reading all your contribution. if still, unsure, best is to goggle and call the high commission of Malaysian and talk to consular at 62350111 (spore)

    teabag

    23 April, 2009 at 11:44 AM

  178. Dear pp,

    can someone let me know if my understanding is correct as below?

    1) if i submit the form K on 18 Jun, i can go back on 25 Jun (7 working days) to collect the renunciation slip

    2) Mean time, i can make an appointment with ICA from 26 jun onwards to take the Oath of Renunciation ? (was given an earlier date in May which definetely needs to be changed – but i not sure change to when).

    3) I can apply for Singapore Passport after 26th June? If not, when can i apply?

    thank you for your reply!!!!

    lost

    25 April, 2009 at 5:56 PM

  179. Hi lost,

    For your questions:

    1) If you submit the form K on 18-Jun, most likely you will collect the renunciation slip 7 working days which is on 29 or 30-June.

    2) Iwill suggest to make an appointment with ICA from 30-June onwards. ICA only allow us to change the appoinment date two times thru’ online, beyond this we have to call them personally..

    3) We can apply for the passport after take the oath at ICA

    btw, I am going to do my renunciation on 2nd week of May.. :)

    small

    25 April, 2009 at 10:55 PM

  180. Hi GREAT,

    thank you!!

    lost

    27 April, 2009 at 11:59 AM

  181. Hi All,

    Any can advise…can i go to take the appoinment at MHC b4 attending NEE?

    or after the NEE?

    cheer

    tt

    terrence

    4 May, 2009 at 4:51 PM

  182. Hi,

    Amazing info here…wow!!

    Thanks guys!

    i have some questions here.

    hope u guys can help me out with this…

    i just got the approval from ICA.

    so what should i do next?

    should i go to MHC to get form K?

    book a submission date?

    are all these to be done even before NEE?

    also, what about the bank accounts and insurance policies in Malaysia?

    close the account? or update the citizenship with the banks later?

    Thanks so much!!

    Leia

    4 May, 2009 at 5:02 PM

  183. Hi All,

    Please help!!!…Anyone can advise…can i go to take the appoinment date at MHC b4 attending NEE?

    or after the NEE?

    cheer

    tt

    terrence

    5 May, 2009 at 8:10 AM

  184. Hi Terrence,

    Pls obtain ur appoitment date from MHC ASAP even before attend NEE as the appoitment date will take place 2- 3 mth later. So as long as u have the letter from ICA, you can go to MHC to book the submision date.

    Saggitarius

    5 May, 2009 at 3:09 PM

  185. Hi all,

    Anyone can advise this…I need to fill up the form K for my two kids, shall I put their names together into one form or separately? TIA~~

    small

    5 May, 2009 at 6:51 PM

  186. I am a M’sian having worked in S’pore for a number of years, been a S’pore PR for number of years too. I am thinking of applying for S’pore citizenship, if I am successful in my application. That means I will have to renounce Msian citizenship. As of to date, no dual citizenship is allowed for either country, right? Another question is will I be allowed to come back for family visits, holidays to M’sia in future? Is there a restriction as to how many visits per year?

    Appreciate all the help I can get the soonest.

    Thanks very much.

    lyn

    5 May, 2009 at 10:28 PM

  187. how much does WTLEE charges?

    wen

    5 May, 2009 at 10:43 PM

  188. Hi Saggitarius,

    Thank you very much…

    cheers

    tt

    terrence

    6 May, 2009 at 8:58 AM

  189. Hi Saggitarius,

    Thank you very much…

    cheer

    tt

    Terrence

    6 May, 2009 at 9:01 AM

  190. Hi guys,

    just to update on the dates. i went to the MHC today and the singh lady gave me 28 sept for the submission date :(

    SS

    12 May, 2009 at 9:52 AM

  191. 1).We plan to apply Singapore citizenship soon(I,my wife and 3 kids).Can somebody tell me do I have to bring my wife and kids during submission of application forms? During interview? Taking oath?

    2).Do kids need to go to MHC to renounce Msian citizensip?

    ken

    12 May, 2009 at 9:05 PM

  192. Anyone received the letter from MHC to collect the Form K after 2 years? If yes may I know approximately when. Mine short of 1 week will be 2 years already….Still no letter.. Any advise..

    Gerry

    13 May, 2009 at 8:00 PM

  193. Hi Wen,

    U mean how much the WTLEE charges for fill in the form? abt S$30.00 incl laminate your birth cert. Hope it help….

    Saggitarius

    14 May, 2009 at 9:08 AM

  194. Just want to share my experience went to MHC again to ask about the Form K and Birth Cert. First thing MHC say you must wait 2 years (always used this excuse). I showed them it’s already 2 years. Then MHC turned back and look at the book and told me that those due in march also did not receive the letter yet. MHC said delay is at KL side. Then I ask so when will i get the letter. MHC said some early some late. Some have to wait up to 3 years (After the 2 years excuse is not valid anymore).

    Then I said can you give me something to show ICA that the process take more than 2 years. MHC said show me letter from ICA to check the status. Then I said I dont have such letter. MHC said go and get a letter then they will check………to be continued……

    Hope

    14 May, 2009 at 1:45 PM

  195. I am back. Just submitted my renunciation forms on 12 May, and collecting the renunciation memo & BC on 21 May.

    Was wondering whether this plan of mine will work.

    On 21 May itself:

    2.00pm: quene for collection at MHC

    3.15pm: ICA appt to take the oath

    5.30pm: go for my driving lesson at amk

    This way, I can save my leave by goin on the same day rather than on 28 May for ICA appt.

    HOw long does it take for the taking of oath n applying for msia IC n passport? Can it be done on the same day?

    Do you think it will work???

    Jacee

    14 May, 2009 at 3:13 PM

  196. thanks everybody!

    waited 4 months to submit the forms and finally did it today!

    didnt go down to WTLEE in the end coz it’s inconvenient for me and i wanted to save the $30. lucky i managed to fill up everything correctly.

    wen

    14 May, 2009 at 3:16 PM

  197. Hi…

    Would like to ask those who have completed the renunciation process… will the MHC retain my international passport when i submit my documents for the renunciation process? My appt with the MHC is on th 25th may n i intend to travel to bangkok from the june 12 to 15…

    thanks

    jasminewys

    14 May, 2009 at 6:29 PM

  198. jasminewys,

    If your international passport is malaysian international passport, then the MHC will take it. have u booked ur bangkok trip?

    usually if everything goes well, u’ll get back ur renumnciation memo the following week which u then, can bring it to ICA to do ur Singapore IC n passport after that.

    jacee

    18 May, 2009 at 3:56 PM

  199. Hi Simon, you mentioned you need to get extract birth cert (as you are adopted child). Did you submit your original birth cert with parents name? On hand, I only have the extract birth cert. Sufficient?

    cmy

    18 May, 2009 at 10:09 PM

  200. hi all,

    Need your advise urgently or else I need call ICA to check..

    My ICA appt to take the oath is 3.15pm, I wonder whether I have enough time to apply my Singapore Passport on the same day as I just notice their operating hours is 8am~3:30pm..:(

    My kids will leave school at 1:30pm and they will take cab to meet me at ICA.

    small

    18 May, 2009 at 11:30 PM

  201. hi,

    I’ve just received ICA’s approval letter for citizenship but after reading all the posts here, I’m very worried and confused. would deeply appreciate it if someone could let me know of the following:

    1. Can I just go to MHC to get whatever forms there are to fill in without bringing any documents?

    2. If so, will they tell me when to submit the forms?

    thank you so much, and apologies if my questions sound so eh… dumb…

    thanks a lot!

    blur

    blur

    20 May, 2009 at 8:14 PM

  202. Hi blur,

    You have go to MHC ASAP to get the Form ‘K’ and they will give you a date to submit the Form ‘K’ together with all the necessary documents and their photocopies.

    I think the submission date will be 5 months from now, that means most likely the date will be Oct-2009.

    small

    21 May, 2009 at 8:08 PM

  203. hi small, yup. The date given is Oct already. I asked for earlier coz passport will expired nxt yr Feb. The “very” nice Singh lady asked me to renew passport instead. blegh…

    Anonymous

    21 May, 2009 at 11:19 PM

  204. Hi Small,

    thanks a lot for the advice! I did just that and yes, my submission date is Oct 09! sigh…why make it so difficult to renounce…

    blur

    22 May, 2009 at 9:17 PM

  205. Hi blur,

    No problem…

    At the beginning of this website, Chris have stated very cleary on the documents that MHC needed.

    Agreed the singh lady was nice and very patient.

    small

    22 May, 2009 at 9:30 PM

  206. Thanks small.

    My documents may be outdated already :X But if you guys do have the recent list, do share it with the rest.

    Please do share more tips on renunciation procedures or your renunciation experience. Hopefully it can be done fast and free of charge. I don’t know how the service is like now. If it is better than what I’ve described, I’m proud of them. My personal experience at that point of time in Jul 2007 was a horrible one.

  207. Hi Chris,

    Everything still remained same as your description but the charge for renunciation was almost double which increased to S$11 instead of S$6.

    By the way we have to re-fill the last page of Form ‘K’ on the submission day to another piece of yellow form.

    My experience was we were not able to apply the passport on the same day as the oath process took about 1 hour +- . We have to drop the passport application forms to the deposit box, which will collect them on the 4th working day. :)

    small

    24 May, 2009 at 9:40 AM

  208. Thanks small.

  209. Hi Small,

    Can be more specific what you mean need to re-fill the form ‘K’on the submission day??

    Is that we need to hand written whatever in form ‘K’ into a yellow copy of form ‘K’??

    Thanks in advance.

    Saggitarius

    26 May, 2009 at 10:41 AM

  210. Saggitarius,

    you are absolutely right. :)

    small

    26 May, 2009 at 6:09 PM

  211. Hi Small,

    Tks a lot

    Saggitarius

    27 May, 2009 at 10:00 AM

  212. hi,

    Need to check with those already collect m’sia high comm renounced slip. How long does it need for next collection when you submit the K form?Is it exactly 10 days? As I need to book my ICA appointment. Let say I submit on 8 Oct. Is it possible to collect on 19 Oct?

    cmy

    29 May, 2009 at 1:30 PM

  213. Hi cmy,

    Yes,if you submit on 8-Oct, you will be able to collect the copy of renounciation slip/receipt on 19-Oct (7working days excluded public holiday).

    I will suggest to make the make your ICA appointment on 20-Oct morning, it will more convenient for your to make oath and proceed to apply Singapore Passport. :)

    small

    2 June, 2009 at 7:13 AM

  214. Does anyone know what to do with lands in sarawak. I was given a piece of land by my grandparent?

    Must i get it transfer to another person before i proceed with “K” form submittion? or I can just leave it and claim the land when i have the singapore’s IC.

    Thanks

    Dora

    4 June, 2009 at 10:53 PM

  215. HI,

    I have a question on the M’sia property if I would like to renounce my citizwn ship, my concern is on the bank issue, should I also declare it to the bank, what about if I sell my property after renounciation ?

    Appreciate if you can provide me some advise.

    Thanks in advance.

    Fel

    5 June, 2009 at 9:22 AM

  216. Hi all,

    When I renounce my Malaysia citizenship, can I NOT renounce my baby’s Malaysia citizenship?

    I heard from ICA that my baby can keep dual citizenship (Malaysia and Singapore) until she is 21 yrs old. Anyone knows how it works?

    Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you!!

    -Derrick

    Derrick

    6 June, 2009 at 4:08 PM

  217. Hi!

    I’ve submit my passport application via the drop box at ICA in the 3rd week of May. Till now I still have not receive the letter from ICA to collect the passport.

    How long will it take for them to send me?

    Thanks!

    jacee

    10 June, 2009 at 6:50 PM

  218. Hi Derrick,

    Did you include your daughter in the SC application? If yes then you have to renounce her Malaysia citizenship as well.

    In most of the case, the child will follow one of parent’s (or father’s)Citizenship. Please correct m if I was wrong.

    Even you had renounced your daughter’s Malaysia citizenship, when she is 21 years old, you daughter will still have a final chance to get Malaysia Citizenship. When this the case, she have to renounce Singapore Citizenship and get the ICA letter to submit to MHC, for more detail, you might need head down to MHC to check.

    Please share with us the outcaome. :)

    small

    13 June, 2009 at 10:58 PM

  219. Hi Jacee,

    The normal processing time for Singapore Passport is three working days after receiveed the application form.

    On the forth day you will receive the pink collection slip, this is to inform you when can you go down to collect your passport.

    Ithink ther would a few possibilty why till now you still have not receive the pink slip; cwhat is your payment mode, credit card or NETS?

    If credir card mode, I think you might had filled wrong card number or other info. If NETS, did you attached the NETS receipt to prove your payment?

    Anyway I will advise you go to ICA to check.

    small

    13 June, 2009 at 11:14 PM

  220. Hi, gr8 post thanks for posting. Information is useful!

    JaneRadriges

    14 June, 2009 at 10:49 AM

  221. small: Thanks for your reply.

    Actually for “minor” (i.e. child), there isn’t any renoucement need to be made. Just need to fill a form to return Malaysia international passport. So you are right, she will be given a chance at 21 to choose Malaysia citizenship again.

    Derrick

    14 June, 2009 at 10:50 PM

  222. Thanks small!

    I called up ICA and they told me its ready.

    jacee

    15 June, 2009 at 3:10 PM

  223. Hello,

    I went to MHC on 25/06/09 to do the renunciation and heard the appoitment date now is 01/12/09.

    Please remind all that please bring and photocopy all the necessary document because saw couple of people didnt do it proberly and waste time for it.

    When submit form they will check the completeness after that they will give you 2 copy yellow colour of Form K need to fill it and give you queue number Wait the queue number to call, submit ducunment,thumbprint and paid S$11.00 after that they will give you a memo to collect the letter of renunciation after 7 working days.

    Hope above can help. Cheers….

    Saggitarius

    28 June, 2009 at 12:09 PM

  224. Hi all,

    I’m wondering if anyone has the experience of registering singaporean citizenship whilst working in the United Kingdom? Becoz transferring my visa to work in the UK takes 3 weeks, it will mean I have to give up 5 weeks thereabouts to be in Singapore for the registration, renunciation of malaysian citizenship and transfer of visa. This is almost impossible with a regular job.

    I have heard of cases of malaysians in the UK renouncing their citizenship in the malaysian high com in london to be singaporean but i can’t work out how they managed to get back to singapore if they had to give up their passport, assuming the process is the same as in Singapore.

    if anyone has any information on how this has been done before, i would be very grateful!

    thanks,

    myc

    MYC

    1 July, 2009 at 8:05 AM

  225. Thanks Chris for your info on renunciation of Msian Citizenship.

    Do i really need copies of parents ic and bert cert?

    sk

    Anonymous

    2 July, 2009 at 7:26 AM

  226. Anonymous : You’re welcome. Yes, during the time of my renunciation in 2007, it was needed. As of now, I am unsure of the updated document checklist.

  227. Anonymous : MHC only need two photocopies of applicant’s parents ic. :)

    small

    2 July, 2009 at 7:48 PM

  228. Hi guys,

    Whrn you renounce the citizenship, willvthey take away the Msia birth cert? If so I find this funny as birth cert is the only kegal document stating who are my parents. Without this document there’ll be problems in future. I’ve heard from friends who renoinced saying that you need not surrender it. Any advice?

    Thanks

    Beluga

    5 July, 2009 at 4:24 PM

  229. Hi Beluga,

    Yes, they will take away your Msia birth cert, thats why u need to laminate it as they will sent to Putrajaya at KL to process it. They will give a certified true copy of the birth cert to you to keep as for the original you will get after 2 or 3 years when they notified u to collect the Form K as well.

    Hope above can help….

    Saggitarius

    8 July, 2009 at 10:04 AM

  230. Hi,

    I have collect the proof of letter of renunciation after 7 working days on 06/07/09. Went to ICA on 07/07/09, the process to take the Oth about 1 hour then went apply passport.

    Here we go. I am Singaporean NOW.. of cos still need to wait for 2 or 3 years to get form K.

    Hope everyone can do the renunciation smoothly….

    Saggitarius

    8 July, 2009 at 10:13 AM

  231. Just want to share that ICA is monitoring closely on the deadline for Form K and will revoke your Singapore Citizenship if you do not submit the Form K in time. You all know how “efficient” MHC is. It is up to yourself to chase them for the Form K.

    Star

    14 July, 2009 at 9:25 AM

  232. Thanks for the tip. Mine is coming up on 18 AUG, till now, no news from the Malaysian side.

  233. Hi there,

    I travel a lot for my job and therefore no passport=no income.Just wondering that after i submit my Form K,is there any way that i can collect my renunciation slip earlier than 7 working days or is that non-negotiable?

    And on ICA side, when would be the earliest i can collect my passport from the day of Oath taking?

    Thanks.

    Jen

    15 July, 2009 at 1:46 AM

  234. FYI, heard from my friend (who just went to MHC yesterday) that the appoitment date now is 22/01/2010.

    Lee

    16 July, 2009 at 11:52 AM

  235. Hi Jen,

    I think the collection of renunciation slip from MHC has been fixed to 7 working days and non-negotiable, you can check with the MHC officer about this when submit the form.

    While for Sngapore Passport, the earliest will be three working days after ICA received your application form.

    small

    16 July, 2009 at 8:50 PM

  236. are child require to be present during submision of K form at MCH?

    kong

    27 July, 2009 at 1:03 AM

  237. Just went to renounce me and my family’s citizenship today. Looks like no need to photostate passport anymore. Just bring along the original will do. All who took photostated Borang K will need to fill up again with the original borang K which is yellow in color. Stupid…. Also, we actually lost our restricted passport but we were told it’s ok when we took the forms to apply get the appointment date months back. So when we went today, we had no problem with those lost passports. Anyway, I still think it’s safer to report loss on those lost passports.

    So this is how it goes:

    1) Go to the MHC and go the the gate on the right to get a visitor pass. You’ll need to surrender some form of identification in order to get a pass.

    2) Enter MHC and go to the right side of the building.

    3) Queue up at the “Form” counter. There the bengali lady will check through your form one time. Then wait for your name to be called at counter 3.

    4) The lady at counter 3 will call you to go through in more details on your application form. There, if you do not have original borang K form filled up, you’ll be given 2 copies per applicant to be filled up again. Once all items are properly filled, then only you’ll be given a queue number. Wait till your number is displayed at the counter.

    5) Go to counter 1 or 2 when your number is displayed. You’ll need to surrender your passport and IC. Somehow, for kids, they don’t need the original Borang W. It was returned to us. You’ll need to stamp your thumbprints on 6 forms. Fee: SGD10 for adult, SGD3 for children.

    6) Given the collection date of 6th August.

    To Kong, no, kids are not required to go. We took our kids there only to be told that it’s not needed.

    One joker there was chatting with the processing officer while processing his application, “I graduated from UTM and started working here. Then got citizenship here. Here good leh, are you a Singapore citizen too? Why don’t you apply? Here good maa….” Hahaha…..

    beluga

    28 July, 2009 at 2:19 PM

  238. Angry… my submission date for the renunciation form to MHC is on 20 Jan’10.

    Is beyond Singapore’s approval letter validation period. Anyone know what should I do?

    I don’t know how to fill up the form K, anyone have sample for me to copy?

    Graff

    28 July, 2009 at 8:32 PM

  239. Hi Graff,

    Hope this helps.

    Form K in Malay translated to english.

    Top paragraph 1st blank “blah blah blah sijil bernombor….” -your BIRTH CERT NO.

    2nd blank “blah blah blah seorang warganegara” – write SINGAPURA

    1. Nama penuh YOUR FULL NAME

    2. Nama lain ALIAS

    3. Nombor kad pengenalan MALAYSIAN IC NO. Tempat dikeluarkan PLACE OF ISSUE

    4. Alamat SINGAPORE HOME ADDRESS

    5. Jantina GENDER (Male=LELAKI, Female=PEREMPUAN)

    6. Tarikh lahir DATE OF BIRTH

    7. Tempat lahir PLACE OF BIRTH (If malaysia, indicate the State eg. Johor)

    8. Bangsa RACE (chinese=CINA)

    9. Agama RELIGION

    Hope this helps.

    small

    28 July, 2009 at 8:40 PM

  240. Hi, thk u very much.. it really helps…

    Graff

    28 July, 2009 at 8:45 PM

  241. Anybody can help ? i just got the submission date of Borang K in August 2009, but the thing is my passport expire in july’09 . If i sumbit borang K got any problem from Malaysia . or i need to renew my Malaysia passport is more safe ..

    Thank !

    Regards

    Fay

    Fay

    1 August, 2009 at 10:14 PM

  242. Hi Fay,

    I don’t think there’s a problem. It’s just illogical to require a non-expiring passport to renounce your citizenship. Passport is just a document to allow you travel. Without it, even if you did not renounce your citizenship, it’s not a compulsory document to have to maintain your citizenship.

    Beluga

    1 August, 2009 at 10:34 PM

  243. Beluga,

    Your kids still holding Malaysian citizenship status till 21 yrs old. Minor needs 21 yrs b4 renounce their “Malaysian” status in MHC. Your kids need to go back MHC or go to Wisma Persekutunan (JB) to do renounce process follow by a oath taking of allegiance in ICA at age 21-22 yrs old.

    What you did in MHC for your kids were simply a passport return procedure not amounted citizenship for children.

    ICA not require minor under 21 yrs old to return passport or renounce b4 citizenship registration under Singapore Citizenship s1985.Rule 4 . I see no point for you to do that. Most Malaysians keeps their kids passport till 21 yrs old.

    ls

    2 August, 2009 at 3:19 AM

  244. Hi Is,

    Thanks for the information. So you mean to say that Msian before 21 years old will not be able to renounce their citizenship on their behalf? They will have to renounce by themself? Kinda make sense to me now since they didn’t take back the Borang W.

    Beluga

    2 August, 2009 at 8:04 AM

  245. Hi Beluga ,

    Thanks for information .

    Anonymous

    2 August, 2009 at 8:46 PM

  246. Hi, i went to submit all my forms and i’m told to return 7 wrking days later to collect my renunciation memo. with that particular memo, can i just go to the singapore side, take the oath on the spot ( with no appointment date) and extend my passport? Thanks!

    Lynne

    5 August, 2009 at 9:37 PM

  247. Hi Lynne,

    Of course you’ll need to make appointment with the ICA to take the oath. On the letter of approval from the ICA, it indicates a date which you need to go to take your oath right? Usually, the date is too short as the queue to renounce on the MHC side is later than the date of oath. That’s why you usually need to defer it before you go for the renunciation and then maybe fine tune one more time after you get a confirmed date to pick up the renunciation slip.

    Beluga

    5 August, 2009 at 11:31 PM

  248. because i’m a minor.. so the date stated from the ICA was from my 21st birthday till 1 day before i turn 22nd which is 27/12/09.

    Lynne

    6 August, 2009 at 11:36 AM

  249. Have updated the post. Please read it if, like me, you’re still awaiting collection of Certificate of Renunciation (Form K).

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    6 August, 2009 at 1:20 PM

  250. Hi Lynne,

    I see…. Sorry, no experience on that….

    Beluga

    6 August, 2009 at 1:30 PM

  251. chris, thanks. i’ve read the update. and Beluga.. thanks for your help too!

    Lynne

    6 August, 2009 at 10:27 PM

  252. Lynne : No prob at all. Hope someone will be able to answer your question soon.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    6 August, 2009 at 11:59 PM

  253. Just went down to ICA today to do the oath. Submitted the passport application onto the box as well after it’s all done. So what happened today is,

    1) Go to 6th floor and queue up or scan the approval letter.

    2) Proceed to counter 22 – 29 which is on the left side of the from the entrance.

    3) Submit the approval form to the officer. They’ll ask for 1 photo for IC. Make sure that you do not wear tinted spectacle. Our spec is the transition lens and it didn’t fully brighten when we took the photo and was rejected. Pay SGD 70 per applicant.

    4) Wait for your number to be called again to process the IC application. Pay SGD 10 per adult applicant.

    5) Wait for your number to appear at room 29 to do your oath. You’ll then be given a temp IC which is just slip with photo.

    Chris, I checked with ICA about the current ongoing problem of requiring more than 2 years to get the renunciation cert. They say it’s no problem to extend further so long as we can get the official reply from Msia side that they can’t provide in time when the due date is drawing near.

    Beluga

    7 August, 2009 at 2:43 PM

  254. Hey Beluga, thanks for sharing! Really appreciate it. I’m sure others will as well!

    3 years is a long wait man. I cannot wait to get this over and done with.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    7 August, 2009 at 4:56 PM

  255. No problem…. Sigh…. Msia is really giving us their last taste of inefficiency before letting us go…

    Beluga

    7 August, 2009 at 5:55 PM

  256. Beluga : Sigh, let’s pull through this one. Once we’re done, we don’t have to go through this again… wait… oh no… my sis has yet to reach the age to renounce.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    9 August, 2009 at 10:33 PM

  257. Any advise on what to fill in

    for the reason for renunciation?

    Thanks in advance.must fill in 2 reason?

    Regards

    Fay

    Anonymous

    10 August, 2009 at 12:23 PM

  258. We wrote:

    1) Better education for children

    2) Living here for too long

    Anyway, doesn’t really matter what you fill in. You worry your actual reason may offend them and subsequently sabo you? ^^. I wanted to write, “Better government” but my wife decide against it. Hehehe…

    Beluga

    10 August, 2009 at 4:21 PM

  259. Beluga said:

    Hi Is,

    Thanks for the information. So you mean to say that Msian before 21 years old will not be able to renounce their citizenship on their behalf? They will have to renounce by themself? Kinda make sense to me now since they didn’t take back the Borang W.

    Hi,Beluga,

    Minor attained age 21, they have to gn to go surrender themselves.For kids below 21 yes old, can hold 2 PP which is allowed under singapore constitution.

    Anonymous

    10 August, 2009 at 4:27 PM

  260. I got my Singapore Citizenship together with my 2 kids (6 & 4 years old).

    My date of appointment to MHC will be on 20-Aug-2009.

    Anyone here can provide the following information :-

    1. Is it necessary for both of my kids to go to MHC on date of appoitment ?

    2. Is it necessary to laminate their Malaysia B/Cert ?

    3. Is it necessary to submit their photo ?

    4. I’m over 21 years old & it is necessary to submit the copy of my parents IC ?

    5. Can i only submit whather expired passport which i have coz i’ve lost my 1st passport. (2 expired passport still with me)

    Sheryl

    11 August, 2009 at 3:59 PM

  261. Hi beluga,

    Understand that you’ve no problem on the lost restricted passport.

    You only submit whatever passport you have ?

    Sheryl

    11 August, 2009 at 5:01 PM

  262. Hi Sheryl

    1) No need to bring kids

    2) Yes, need to laminate

    3) Yes need a piece of photo

    4) Photostated parents IC

    5) Strictly, they need all the passports but if you don’t tell them and they don’t ask, just submit whatever you have. Their process is always hurry burry. So, they don’t really scrutinize all your passports. Anyway, restricted passport is not too bad. Even if you found one on the floor, it’s not that you can use it anyway. It’s the international passport they are more particular. Anyway, to ease your mind, just go to and NPP and report to get a letter, easy-peasy….

    Beluga

    11 August, 2009 at 10:56 PM

  263. Hi Beluga,

    Thanks for your advised !

    Oh, i didn’t know that parents IC is required !

    The list given only indicated parents IC required for those applicant :

    1) Age 21 & 22

    2) Born outside Malaysia

    3) Without Malaysia IC and Malaysian Citizenship Cert.

    4) If any, of the parents is not Malaysian.

    I’ve Malaysia IC, is it necessary to submit my parents IC ?

    Last question, photo need to be in BLUE background right ?

    Anyway, agreed to have a letter for the lost passport, just in case ….

    Sheryl

    12 August, 2009 at 8:59 AM

  264. Hi Sheryl,

    I’m not absolutely sure need parents IC but we brought along.

    Yes, blue background. One piece is enough. So far I find the counter staff is friendly and helpful. Only the bhai lady a bit niau….

    Beluga

    12 August, 2009 at 11:40 AM

  265. Hi Sheryl,

    I’m not absolutely sure if parents IC is needed. But we brought along anyway. As for the photo, yes, need blue background. SG side is all white.

    Beluga

    12 August, 2009 at 11:53 AM

  266. Hi Beluga,

    Thank you very much for your help !

    Hopefully everything are smooth on 20-Aug…

    Sheryl

    12 August, 2009 at 1:00 PM

  267. Hi Sheryl,

    NP… By the way, if you are still holding on to the photostated Borang K, and that day, first thing you should do is go and ask for the original Borang K and fill it up again. It happened to me and all those who were there on the same day.

    Beluga

    12 August, 2009 at 1:34 PM

  268. Hi Beluga,

    Borang K is the one which we collected during the day we fixed appointment right ?

    By the way, you fill up the form yourself ? If i’m not wrong, they’ll check & we still be able to amend whichever is wrong right?

    Thinking of go to WTLEE Services, what do yo think ?

    Sheryl

    12 August, 2009 at 3:57 PM

  269. Hi Sheryl,

    Yes, the whole set you got when you went to book the date to submit all the documents. The ones we had was all photostated. Come on that day, all had to be refilled with the original forms. All the examples on how to fill up the forms are clearly pasted on the wall. So, you if yours is photostated, you may want to make a trip down again to get the original borang K form and at the same time, fill up the forms so that on the 20th itself, it will be smooth and easy. There’s only a small part written in Malay which already translated by some of the kind souls here. So, it depend on you on whether to ask WTLEE for help. For us, we certainly didn’t do so.

    Beluga

    12 August, 2009 at 4:52 PM

  270. Another point to add. Don’t worry too much on making mistakes. They are quite friendly and not as rigid as some ppl mentioned so long as you are friendly to them. You will encounter 2 rounds of document checks before you’re given the actual queue number to do the actual submission. So, any mistakes just correct it or worse, just refill the forms. Our experience with them was quite pleasant, except for the lor sor bhai lady.

    Beluga

    12 August, 2009 at 4:58 PM

  271. Hi Beluga,

    Thanks for sharing !

    Think i’ll make a trip down to MHC tomorrow.

    Sheryl

    12 August, 2009 at 5:06 PM

  272. Finally got my SG passport! Dropped into the deposit box on friday late morning and collected today. I went there to check without any notification received as I’m in a hurry to travel. So, it’s confirmed 3 working day is sufficient.

    Beluga

    13 August, 2009 at 11:02 AM

  273. Hi Beluga,

    Congrat ! Finally everthing had been completed !

    Sheryl

    13 August, 2009 at 5:07 PM

  274. Sorry, 1 more thing to check with you.

    4 passport size photos which indicated in ICA letter are enoungh for the whole process including IC & Passport application ?

    Sheryl

    13 August, 2009 at 5:12 PM

  275. No, not complete yet. Still got the Getting IC and Citizen Cert receiving ceremony not done. Still waiting for their letter, which will come in 3 to 6 months time.

    Yes, 4 photos is enough. I remember only need 1 for IC and 1 for passport though….

    Beluga

    13 August, 2009 at 6:57 PM

  276. Sheryl,

    So you did go down to MHC to get the original borang K form?

    Beluga

    14 August, 2009 at 3:12 PM

  277. Hi Beluga,

    Yup. I went yesterday & the officer told me that original borang K can only be collected on the date of appoitment.

    Anyway, i had been informed that they will check the photocopy form before fill-in to the original application form. Hence, not necessary to get ‘someone’ to fill-in the form for me !

    Special remarks to all who wants to go MHC to get the date of appointment :

    please go between 8am to 10.30am as the guard will reject your request to go in if you reach there EXCEED the above timing !

    Reason given was from 2.30pm onwards is for COLLECTION only !

    I was rejected yesterday ! Stand down there & argued with them for 10minutes and finally 1 of the kind indian guard agreed to let me in ….

    Sheryl

    14 August, 2009 at 4:49 PM

  278. Hahahaha…. Ooops, looks like there’s no way to avoid the refilling of the forms. That probably makes sense as the original borang K has limited quantity and they want to make sure no form is wasted.

    Beluga

    14 August, 2009 at 5:02 PM

  279. Dear all,

    Need to check with you guys, i ONLY have my current international passport, if i go to NPP make a report, they need all all expired passport nos in order to process the letter?

    cloud

    17 August, 2009 at 11:11 AM

  280. Hi, I’ve just received my original of my Certificate of Renunciation-form K. Just to inform you of my waiting time approximately it took 3 years! Just be prepared.

    PS: The waiting time have recently been extended without informing ICA.

    You

    17 August, 2009 at 8:17 PM

  281. Wow… congrats You! So how do you receive it? Damn, 3 years. That means can’t change address within this 3 years!

    Beluga

    17 August, 2009 at 9:56 PM

  282. Congratulations!!!! You made it!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    17 August, 2009 at 10:42 PM

  283. Hi Beluga,

    You still can change your address within three years and you have to inform to MHC about this. :)

    small

    18 August, 2009 at 8:20 AM

  284. Thanks Small…

    Those who have completed the renouncement, did you withdraw your EPF(KWSP)? If so, any comment on this? Thanks!

    Beluga

    19 August, 2009 at 5:28 PM

  285. The oppointment date to submit borong K is exceeded the valid date which ICA’s. Do I need to call ICA for the extention or just need to use the

    e-appointment to reserve?

    Graff

    19 August, 2009 at 10:00 PM

  286. Hi Graff,

    You can change the ICA appointment date thru’ e-appontment.

    Please bear in mind ICA only allow you to change the date online for two times, more than that you have to call ICA personally.

    My advice is try to make your ICA appointment date be 10 working days after you Borong K submission at MHC.

    small

    19 August, 2009 at 11:16 PM

  287. Hi small, thanks for your advise.

    Graff

    20 August, 2009 at 8:48 PM

  288. Does anyone know any person can help us to fill up the whole set of “Borong K”?

    Siang Ying

    20 August, 2009 at 8:55 PM

  289. Hi Siang Ying,

    You probably can go look for WTLEE which if you do a word search here, you should be able to find it. However, bear in mind that you’ll still need to refill everything again on the day of submission as it seems MHC is distributing photostated copy of Borang K when you book your date. On the day of submission, then only you’ll be given the actual copy of the Borang K to be filled up.

    Beluga

    21 August, 2009 at 10:29 AM

  290. I just submitted all forms to MHC yesterday.

    As told by Beluga, no worry on forms filling as the officer will guide you on whatever column that you leave it ‘blank’.

    The whole process was quite smooth and no additonal documents like police report on the lost passport/parents IC required.(Anyway, i prepared… just in case)

    I just submitted all documents that stated on the form given.

    Sheryl

    21 August, 2009 at 2:01 PM

  291. Siang Ying :

    WTLEE SERVICES

    Blk 77, #01-499, Indus Road, Singapore 161077

    Call Louis Lee, HP: 97933633

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    22 August, 2009 at 2:22 AM

  292. Much appreciated for all of your helpsss…

    Chris, sorry, may I know how much need to pay him for fillin up the form? Any operating hours or days?

    Shiang Ying

    22 August, 2009 at 10:07 AM

  293. Shiang Ying : Previously I paid $50 or $60. That was 2 years ago. I hope someone can come along and fill you in on the current price. You’ll have to call them for the operating hours. I remember I went at lunch time on a weekday.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    22 August, 2009 at 1:13 PM

  294. Hi Shiang Ying,

    abt S$30.00 incl laminate your birth cert when I did around May’09

    Saggitarius

    25 August, 2009 at 8:31 AM

  295. Please kindly advise my case:

    1st-(SIN)Approval for Spore citizenship.>DONE

    2nd-(MY)Submission date of Borang K.>DONE

    3rd-(SIN)NEE.>DONE

    *************************************************

    time waiting

    *************************************************

    4th-(MY)Submission Borang “K”,date on 4th Sept>

    Can I get “Proof of Renunciation” on same day?

    5th-(SIN)online register ICA citizenship session,i applied 8th Sept.

    6th-(MY)bring all new passport+IC, let MY gov for record purpose.

    Florence

    25 August, 2009 at 3:12 PM

  296. Hi Che, may i know what type of medical letter you bring along to request for earlier date at MHC ?

    as im pregnant too. thks

    Yi

    25 August, 2009 at 5:41 PM

  297. Hi Che, may i know what type of medical letter you bring along to request for earlier date at MHC ?

    as im pregnant too. thks

    Yi

    25 August, 2009 at 5:41 PM

  298. Hi Florence,

    No, you can never get your Renunciation slip on the same day. It will take 5 working days to process. So, it’s absolutely impossible for you to do your oath of the 8th as you should be getting your renunciation slip on earliest, 10th Sept or 11th Sept. So to be comfortable, arrange on the 12th September.

    Another thing I don’t understand:

    6th-(MY)bring all new passport+IC, let MY gov for record purpose.

    After you’ve gotten your SG passport, why would you want to go to MHC again to show them?

    Beluga

    25 August, 2009 at 8:20 PM

  299. Hi guys,

    Just to let you guys know how to withdraw your EPF money after you’ve gotten your SG passport. Went over to Msia to get it done today with my wife. This was what I did and thus, I only know the steps below works…

    1) Get the KWSP 9K AHL and KWSP 3 form. It can be downloaded online from http://www.kwsp.gov.my too. Fill up those forms ONLY in black ink pen. You will need to know your KWSP number. If you don’t, probably you can visit them to obtain the number. It’s an 8-digit number.

    2) Go to any KWSP branch in Msia.

    3) Bring along original and photostated borang K acknowledgement slip, SG passport and SG IC (the one with punched hole is acceptable)

    4) Get your thumbs printed on the forms your filled up.

    5) If you have MY bank account, you can choose to make them bank the money into the MY bank account. No share account is accepted. So, if you are like our case where there are no longer any MY bank account and whole family has converted, you’ll have to choose to let them send the money in bank draft in SGD to Singapore. We preferred it to be banked into a MY bank account but was unable to do so.

    6) Wait for 3 weeks to be processed.

    Beluga

    25 August, 2009 at 8:37 PM

  300. Hi Beluga,

    Thanks so much your advise. everyone told me can get Renunciation slip on the same day.That reason i scheduled on 8th SEPT.

    Question:

    1.possible ICA register unlimitted reschedule?

    2.Anybody you heard experience can get it in 1 day?meaning same day.

    *********************************************

    6th-(MY)bring all new passport+IC, let MY gov for record purpose.

    (I heard from someone said after completed SIN. Need go back MY to report my new IC/new passport to them keep for record)

    Florence

    26 August, 2009 at 8:13 AM

  301. Hi Florence,

    Hmm… you seem to be surrounded by very misinformed ex-citizens. :-)

    Spend some time reading the posts here. There are tons of useful info here. ICA only allow you to change the date 2 times via online. After that, you’ll need to call them to change the date again. As far as I’ve read everyone’s posting, no one has ever able to get it on the same day. Able to get earlier renunciation submission date is possible if you’re pregnant but no other compromizable rescheduling as far as I know.

    Beluga

    26 August, 2009 at 8:31 AM

  302. Hi Florence,

    Confirmed you’re unable to get the Renunciation Slip on the same day !

    For your info., my date of appointment with MHC was on 20-Aug-2009 and i can only collect the Renunciation Slip on 1st-September-2009 which appointed by MHC.

    Sheryl

    26 August, 2009 at 9:15 AM

  303. Hi Sheryl,

    Yes, my mistake… not 5 working days but 7 working days. In your case, I think it coincide with Msia national day, thus slightly longer.

    Beluga

    26 August, 2009 at 10:01 AM

  304. Dear All,

    Is anyone got idea can we keep our MY saving acct when we get our spore citizenship?

    Saggitarius

    26 August, 2009 at 10:11 AM

  305. Hi Sagitarius,

    I think existing account shouldn’t be an issue. Only problem is if you want to open new bank account. Need prove that your 2nd home is Msia or you have close relative in Msia. In that case, you can open a join account with the relative who is a Msian. However, like what we discovered, Msia gov will not deal with join accounts. Only individual accounts.

    Beluga

    26 August, 2009 at 10:36 AM

  306. Hi Beluga,

    Ic….Thanks a lot

    Saggitarius

    26 August, 2009 at 5:27 PM

  307. Beluga,thanks so much.

    I think i have to push them a bit:)somemore now started fasting…..:(

    Thanks Sheryl,appreciated your shared:)

    Hi All,

    I going NEE tmr…don’t know what going on…how come need used half day?

    Florence

    26 August, 2009 at 7:41 PM

  308. Florence,

    If you could ever get the borang K slip on the same day, I belanja you any restaurant in Singapore… :-)

    NEE, is a tour for new citizen to know the essential stuffs about singapore like what is parliament, Community Centre and a brief history of Singapore. It’s all explained in the letter… Gosh, I do really wonder if you read at all…. Also, by the way, don’t wear chinchai-chinchai clothings tomorrow as you’ll be going to the parliament…

    Beluga

    26 August, 2009 at 9:13 PM

  309. Beluga,

    Ok, let’s see….what going on 4th sept. Prepare your $ give me a treat.hahaah:)=

    While,i read…just wondering….sin so small.so much things to talk?and show? yes,will dress up for sure…:) Thanks Beluga

    Florence

    26 August, 2009 at 10:45 PM

  310. Well, it starts at around 1 pm and finish at around 5 ~ 6 pm. That’s only 4 to 5 hours and you have 3 places to go, near Maxwell market, one of the CC and finally the parliament. Very long meh?

    Beluga

    26 August, 2009 at 10:56 PM

  311. Beluga,

    Yes,4 hours i think…yes will kill me almost listen those…history stuff i think..hahahah….no clue. but still,hope less than 4 hours will best…:)=

    Thanks Beluga:)

    Florence

    27 August, 2009 at 5:27 AM

  312. -=Need help=-

    loss of expired passports, called mummy. She can’t find any expired passports for me…:(

    anybody had such problem?how to report to Neighbourhood Police Centres?

    1.tell them i loss all of expired passports.

    2.due to having issues for appointment with MHC of my expired passports?

    Feel so funny to make such report.

    Florence

    27 August, 2009 at 7:07 AM

  313. my fren want to apply citizenship.

    His father is singapore citizenship

    Mother is Malaysia PR

    He is born in Malaysia and own a Malaysia passport, this means he got Malaysia citizenship.

    How do he apply , do he need to apply for PR first then Citizenship ?

    Karelyn

    28 August, 2009 at 4:37 PM

  314. How old is he? May be tough because he escaped NS… NS is a sensitive issue to the SG government….

    Beluga

    28 August, 2009 at 6:04 PM

  315. Hi all ,

    Can anyone update me on how are our properties at Malaysia after Renunciation ? Any work need to be done on this ?

    Thanks in advance

    Johnson

    Johnson

    29 August, 2009 at 5:44 PM

  316. Hi all ,

    Can anyone update me on how are our properties at Malaysia after Renunciation ? Any work need to be done on this ?

    Thanks in advance

    Johnson

    Johnson

    29 August, 2009 at 5:45 PM

  317. Hi Beluga,

    you’re right man. They give me 15th sept. by time,can i still bring the slip to ICA?

    That day NEE almost kill me.but no choice…i like Singapore.

    Here my question:

    Can i still go for ICA for appoitmenr i made in early:http://eappointment.ica.gov.sg

    Thanks Sheryl, you’re right man.

    Florence

    4 September, 2009 at 10:15 AM

  318. Hi Beluga,

    you’re right man. They give me 15th sept. by time,can i still bring the slip to ICA?

    That day NEE almost kill me.but no choice…i like Singapore.

    Here my question:

    Can i still go for ICA for appoitmenr i made in early:http://eappointment.ica.gov.sg

    Thanks Sheryl, you’re right man.

    Florence

    4 September, 2009 at 10:16 AM

  319. Hi Beluga,

    you’re right man. They give me 15th sept. by time,can i still bring the slip to ICA?

    That day NEE almost kill me.but no choice…i like Singapore.

    Here my question:

    Can i still go for ICA for appoitmenr i made in early:http://eappointment.ica.gov.sg

    Thanks Sheryl, you’re right man.

    Florence

    4 September, 2009 at 10:16 AM

  320. Hi Beluga,

    you’re right man. They give me 15th sept. by time,can i still bring the slip to ICA?

    That day NEE almost kill me.but no choice…i like Singapore.

    Here my question:

    Can i still go for ICA for appoitmenr i made in early:http://eappointment.ica.gov.sg

    Thanks Sheryl, you’re right man.

    Florence

    4 September, 2009 at 10:18 AM

  321. Huh? Not sure what you meant but logically speaking, of course you can only go on the appointment date you have made WITH the renunciation slip. So, don’t act blur and go to your appt date before 15th September and hope they entertain you. So, if your appt date is before Sept 15th, you just have to reschedule the appt with ICA again…

    Beluga

    4 September, 2009 at 10:28 AM

  322. Hi Beluga,

    you advise today until 15th i no need to do any follow up right.even apply passport and nirc?

    Thanks

    Florence

    4 September, 2009 at 10:47 AM

  323. Ugh…. Give me a bowl. I need to vomit blood liao….

    If I remember correctly, you have made your appt with ICA before 15th Sept right? If so then you’ll need to change the appt date till after 15th.

    Of course you can’t apply SG passport and NRIC until you’ve done your oath(sumpah). Technically speaking, you only become a Singaporean AFTER your do your oath. So how on earth you can apply passport and NRIC now? Changing citizenship is something that is considered sacred and solemn… You think can anyhow jump step one meh!

    Beluga

    4 September, 2009 at 10:58 AM

  324. Beluga,

    sorry ya:)=

    do know?the officer gave me the slip after paid $10. she asked me bring this to ICA they will do for me.that why i doubt her and you answered.my god…

    Florence

    4 September, 2009 at 11:14 AM

  325. You go and give it a try lor…

    Beluga

    4 September, 2009 at 1:05 PM

  326. Hi Beluga,

    i dare not…:)= listen to you better.thanks ya..

    Florence

    4 September, 2009 at 2:23 PM

  327. http://eappointment.ica.gov.sg

    Direct number to ICA about spore citizenship

    63916314/309

    Florence

    4 September, 2009 at 4:52 PM

  328. Hi

    I got my renounce slip on 4 Sept 09 for myself and my 3 kids, age 6, 9 & 11. Do my kids need to apply for Malaysia & Singapore Passports ? The MHC officer told me I only need to go ICA to apply for Singapore passports for my kids. I thought minor can hold dual citizenship until 21 years old , and thus can hold 2 passports ?

    Pris

    7 September, 2009 at 9:05 AM

  329. Hi Pris,

    Passport is not a compulsory item to hold any citizenship. That being said, you only apply if you need it…

    Beluga

    7 September, 2009 at 10:26 AM

  330. Thanks Beluga

    Pris

    8 September, 2009 at 5:54 AM

  331. Hi Beluga,

    I’ll be going to ICA to do the oath this coming Friday.

    Besides the photos + documents which indicated on ICA approval letter, is there any additional documents are required ?

    my time of appointment is 3″45pm. Hopefully time is sufficient for me to apply passport as well…

    Anyway, i’m planning to reach there abt 3pm see whether they’re entertain me ???

    Sheryl

    8 September, 2009 at 11:40 AM

  332. Hi Sheryl,

    Don’t forget the Borang K documents you received from MHC and of course, your blue IC… ^^; Also, the photo must be white background, if wearing spectacle, it must not be tinted at all and your hair must not cover the ears. Otherwise, they will ask you to go and take the photos again at Level 2 at 5.35 for 4 pcs.

    Passport application, just get the forms at level 1 entrance and fill it up. No need other documents needed to apply for the passport unless you changed your name or you’re under 21. Just drop it into the box which is also available beside the automated kiosk on the level you are going for your oath. It’s on the right side of the entrance of the path leading to the place you are going to take your oath. Alternatively, you can also go to Level 2 to apply but dropping into the box save you $10, but dropping into the box requires credit card to pay. We applied ours by dropping into the box. 3 working days later(not including the day I dropped-in the form), I just go to ICA to collect the passport without waiting for the reply slip as I agak-agak it should have completed by then and indeed, they have the passport ready. Passport collection must be collected in person as they will scan your fingerprint when you collect. You will also be asked to sign on the first page of the passport.

    I think if you go at around 3PM, it should be ok kwaa…. Not sure leh. Post your comments later here if it works… Haha, better not else people will be asking, eh, 2:30 can or not har?

    Wah, so much info, I’m contemplating should I start charging for consultation… Huhuhu…..

    Beluga

    8 September, 2009 at 3:02 PM

  333. Please kindly advise my case:

    1st-(SIN)Approval for Spore citizenship.>DONE

    2nd-(MY)Submission date of Borang K.>DONE

    3rd-(SIN)NEE.>DONE

    *************************************************

    time waiting

    *************************************************

    4th-(MY)Submission Borang “K”,date on 4th Sept>DONE

    5th-(SIN)bring with memo 1/2 A4 size from MY.I got tempo IC and can apply for passport>DONE

    6th-(MY)Can I get “Proof of Renunciation”>

    7th-(SIN)give SIN a copy of “Renunciation”>

    8th-(MY)wait for 2 years the original from MY>

    what else i lost?when i can have my original I/C?Thanks

    Florence

    8 September, 2009 at 3:31 PM

  334. Hi Beluga,

    Thanks for your prmpt reply….

    We’ve finally pull through the process of going MHC. I think ICA is easier & all questions & items required are ‘reasonable’ if compare with MHC.

    Anyway, thanks again…

    Sheryl

    8 September, 2009 at 3:33 PM

  335. Hi Sheryl,

    Well, you still have 1 final thing to worry about, which is to wait 3 years for the official renunciation cert.

    Yes, definitely the SG side is much more efficient. You’ll be amazed how the passport is delivered to the counter which calls your number on the day of collection. I suspect they are automatically delivered to under the counter’s table via an automated conveyor belt.

    Beluga

    8 September, 2009 at 4:03 PM

  336. Hi Beluga,

    1 more question, can we go n apply for SG Passport before Oath Taking ?

    (I mean apply on the same day but only before the process of Oath Taking).

    Or certain documents will be given after Oath Taking in order for us to apply passpost & IC.

    I’m worry due to time constrain, i’ve to go on the next day for my passport application. For your info., i intend to apply the passport over the counter as both of my kids are not required to attend during collection if they ‘show face’ during application.

    Sheryl

    8 September, 2009 at 4:49 PM

  337. Hmmm… on the same day? That I wouldn’t know. Technically, I should say, No since you’re not a Singaporean until you’ve gone through the oath taking process.

    If your children is below 6 years old, they are not required to show up at all for the passport application and collection.

    Beluga

    8 September, 2009 at 6:31 PM

  338. Hi Sheryl,

    Come to think of it, I’m quite certain, you can’t apply before the oath. Imagine this, someone apply for the citizenship and just before he takes the oath, he go and apply the passport and after that, he just walk away without taking the oath. Of course, this person will eventually not able to collect his passport but imagine you go to the passport application counter and present blue IC instead of the temporary SG citizen IC slip, I don’t think they will want to entertain, despite the fact that you show them the prove of oath taking on the same day. There’s no guarantee that you may walk away after applying the passport right?

    Beluga

    8 September, 2009 at 6:36 PM

  339. Beluga,

    I done all.now SG IC slip with me,i will post passport form to ICA later.what is next process i have to do?

    Thanks,advised.

    Florence

    9 September, 2009 at 2:06 PM

  340. Har? You managed to get the Renunciation slip from MHC before 15th Sept? I thought they gave you this date to collect… YOu manage to get it much earlier?

    Beluga

    9 September, 2009 at 4:26 PM

  341. Beluga,

    I just bring the memo rececipt and go ICA on 8th sept,they allow.so they gave me a slip of ic and asked me apply passport.so 15th sept i have to go back MY to get K form i think.then SIN said i have to make photo copy and submit to them as record.overall what else i have to do and wait?thanks

    Florence

    10 September, 2009 at 6:58 AM

  342. I see….

    This is something new guys! NO NEED TO WAIT FOR THE RENUNCIATION SLIP FROM MHC! Probably somebody else can confirm this too?

    In that case, nothing much else remaining except

    1) Wait for the letter from ICA notifying you to attend the ceremony of receving your citizenship cert and pink IC, which is anytime between 3 to 6 months. I am at this stage too, waiting….

    2) Wait for 3 years for Msia side to send you the renunciation cert and the birth cert you surrendered to them. However, the tricky part is, after nearly 2 years, Singapore will start to ask you whether you received this cert. You will have to ask MHC to give you an official reply that it is not ready yet and will have to wait longer for this cert. Then ICA side will extend the wait for another year maybe. As of the current situation, the wait is 3 years. In future, maybe shorter or longer no one knows…

    Beluga

    10 September, 2009 at 7:47 AM

  343. hi all,

    I just like to ask if getting the RENUNCIATION SLIP from MHC is a fast process?

    Do i need to bring along any documents?

    Thanks a lot.

    sulli

    10 September, 2009 at 8:06 AM

  344. Hi pp,

    this is very informative, Thanks.

    Just went to MHC this morning (10-Sep-09), guess what? The appointment date for submission is 26-Mar-2010…

    Patrick

    10 September, 2009 at 9:25 AM

  345. Hi pp,

    this is very informative. Thanks.

    Just went to MHC to collect Borang K and appointment date this morning 10-Sep-09….the date is now 26-March-2010!!!

    Patrick

    10 September, 2009 at 9:27 AM

  346. One more thing, the Singh lady confirmed NO!! need to TYPE Borang K and she even wrote in down on my document list on item #10 – All documents are…. FORMS TO BE TYPE (instead she adds “OR WRITE”) neatly.

    Patrick

    10 September, 2009 at 9:41 AM

  347. Hi Sulli,

    Yes, just go in the afternoon of the specified date with the slip and you can pick up. Nothing else…

    Beluga

    10 September, 2009 at 1:39 PM

  348. Hi Beluga,

    Thanks for the information. ^^

    Sulli

    10 September, 2009 at 6:17 PM

  349. Beluga,

    Yes, i read forum

    http://chillibabe76.multiply.com/journal/item/241/Renunciation_of_Malaysian_Citizenship_at_the_Malaysian_High_Comm_in_Singapore

    she did mention once you got a memo slip can just ahead to ICA.

    So coming 15th i have to go MY to collect somethings right?then ICA said,i have to give them photocopy within 2 days.

    I post mail to do my singapore passport. unsecure without passport,can’t go any place:)=

    So i just follow as your mention:

    ****************************************************************************

    In that case, nothing much else remaining except

    1) Wait for the letter from ICA notifying you to attend the ceremony of receving your citizenship cert and pink IC, which is anytime between 3 to 6 months. I am at this stage too, waiting….

    2) Wait for 3 years for Msia side to send you the renunciation cert and the birth cert you surrendered to them. However, the tricky part is, after nearly 2 years, Singapore will start to ask you whether you received this cert. You will have to ask MHC to give you an official reply that it is not ready yet and will have to wait longer for this cert. Then ICA side will extend the wait for another year maybe. As of the current situation, the wait is 3 years. In future, maybe shorter or longer no one knows…

    ****************************************************************************

    Thanks so much,Beluga you’re so helpful.

    Florence

    11 September, 2009 at 11:09 AM

  350. Hi Florence,

    Yes, 15th got to MHC to collect a stack of renunciation documents and a sealed letter attentioned to ICA.

    Oh one more point I forgot to add which is very important for you to do next…

    3) Chia me makan…

    Anyway, congratulations to you for almost completing the citizenship process.

    Anonymous

    11 September, 2009 at 1:15 PM

  351. By the way guys, remember I posted a couple of weeks back on how to withdraw the EPF funds after you’ve completed the citizenship? I’ve received a registered mail yesterday with a SGD cheque attached. The convertion rate is horrible! 1SGD = RM2.47! Ugh…

    Anonymous

    11 September, 2009 at 1:21 PM

  352. Beluga,

    thanks a lot. sure no problem. i’m fine meet up for lunch. i worked around TPY.sometimes also station at suntec office. do let me know…if you office around my area?

    cheers*

    Florence

    11 September, 2009 at 2:54 PM

  353. Hi Florence,

    Thanks… Haha, just kidding only… Don’t want to take advantage of anyone. Anyway, I’ve been thinking, if anyone is interested to have a gathering just to know more friends, I’m keen and I can organize. Those who are thinking of converting are also welcome to join. Those keen can email me at tjk_jo-hn@hotmail without the underscore and hyphen and add the com.

    Beluga

    12 September, 2009 at 11:16 AM

  354. Wow. This post is turning into a mini-community. Honestly I would want to have a community, but my bandwidth says otherwise.

    I’ve seen Beluga long enough. And yes, you guys who are into renunciation should meet him.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    13 September, 2009 at 12:35 AM

  355. Hi Beluga,

    Yes.i really don’t mind. Let be our chairman…i can be your right/left hand:)=

    Chris…Good idea…

    Florence

    14 September, 2009 at 7:27 AM

  356. Haha… No laa, I don’t claim to be one… Just want to know more ppl. BTW, I’m not from insurance line. So, don’t worry that I’m here for ulterior motive hehe… Anyway, ppl here will come and go once they have gotten their citizenship. So, I’m not optimistic about it….

    Beluga

    14 September, 2009 at 4:33 PM

  357. Yeah, Beluga.

    agreed, once gotten their citizenship will close case. I knew your point,you’re help around people who having trouble or need help on what’s going apply citizenship.

    Insurance?No way…for me, i only reconignize on 1/0,0/1!

    Thanks Beluga,all your advise and helped. tmr going to MY, after that will go ICA drop my MY form. memo slip notice go 2.30pm. how long will take for this session?Thanks

    Florence

    14 September, 2009 at 5:30 PM

  358. No idea how long it will take as your sequence and mine is different. It should not take that long I think…

    Beluga

    14 September, 2009 at 6:48 PM

  359. Thanks,Beluga:)

    Florence

    14 September, 2009 at 9:21 PM

  360. Hi Chris, Beluga and gangs, 好心有好报的…

    If happen to be I am online, I will try my best to answer those queries that I know. Like Chinese said: “取之社会,用之社会.” hehe….

    small

    14 September, 2009 at 10:27 PM

  361. Thanks small! I can’t read Chinese but I really appreciate your help!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    14 September, 2009 at 11:54 PM

  362. Hi beluga,

    I’ve completed everything in ICA and they have given 2 years waiting time on the Original Slip from MHC.

    I would like to know if the 2 years is from the date of our copy of renunciation letter ??

    Sheryl

    15 September, 2009 at 8:46 AM

  363. Hi Chris,

    What he’s saying in Chinese is, “What comes from the society, goes back to the society”….

    Hi Sheryl.

    Not too sure when the 2 years starts but but make much of a difference since the date your collect the renunciation slip and the day you perform your oath is only 2 weeks apart at most. Anyway, as what I understand, when the 2 years wait is drawing near, ICA will send us a letter asking for the renunciation cert. That’s when we need to seek an official reply from MHC and pass it to ICA. Damn, why can’t ICA go directly to MHC…

    Beluga

    15 September, 2009 at 10:33 AM

  364. Hi Beluga,

    Finally, i went MHC collect renunciation of malaysia citizenship,used 1 minute time. I directly, go ICA level 6 drop another photocopy set to them. I curious….where my birth cert?why MHC never return to me?

    Florence

    15 September, 2009 at 2:47 PM

  365. They will only return the birth cert to you together with the renunciation cert, which is 2 to 3 years later. That’s why they asked you to laminate the cert so that, the already kiam chye cert will still be well preserved when they return to you… So, in this 2 or 3 years, you will have no official prove of who is your father and mother…. hahaha….

    Beluga

    15 September, 2009 at 5:12 PM

  366. Beluga,

    my god.birth cert it’s so important for everyone know?no matter where you’re.indeed, later ppl kick us back to CHINA!!!!!!

    Florence

    15 September, 2009 at 5:29 PM

  367. You didn’t make a photocopy? For my case, I made a color photocopy and made certify true copy… Paiseh, didn’t tell you this… ^^;;;

    Beluga

    15 September, 2009 at 5:41 PM

  368. Opss,i think should be ok.i only make normal photocopy.Pray hard within 3 years nothing bad happen:(

    Thanks Beluga.

    Any concern about passport you can call:+65 63916541

    Florence

    15 September, 2009 at 5:57 PM

  369. Hi Beluga,

    Dun think ICA will go directly to MHC since it is our own problem. :(

    The certified birth cert. can be used to prove our status, no worries on that. :)

    small

    15 September, 2009 at 9:24 PM

  370. Hi,

    As for the birth cert, i did the same with beluga.. Made colour copy, laminated & safe keeping by myself..

    Not only birth cert, malaysia IC as well, just in case.

    By the way, MHC did returned us a certified copy of birth cert together with renunciation letter. Think that will be enough.

    Sheryl

    16 September, 2009 at 8:33 AM

  371. Hi Sheryl,

    Maybe they did…. It was my wife who went to pick up the documents. It was a stack of documents.

    So, for all that you know, we may be attending the same ceremony at the same location! Which area do you live? I’m in CCK…

    Beluga

    16 September, 2009 at 10:07 AM

  372. Yahoo…Sheryl&Beluga, i got my passport..finally!

    Now, nothing else to follow up….phew..:)

    Thanks,Sheryl&Beluga:)

    Florence

    16 September, 2009 at 11:20 AM

  373. Hi,

    Anyone know what is the most convenient way to travel to highcom from Orchard MRT? (except by taking cab)

    Cheers

    Jules

    Juliana

    16 September, 2009 at 12:48 PM

  374. Hi Juliana,

    Take bus 14 or 65 from Orchard MRT. Alight at the 4th bus stop. See road sign and walk in.

    At the same bus stop opposite direction, you can take bus 32 to Lavendar MRT ICA Building.

    Hope this help.

    small

    16 September, 2009 at 10:04 PM

  375. For missing passport, if you do not tell MHC, they will not ask for police report. Appointment date allocated today is 08 Apr 2010.

    kong

    17 September, 2009 at 10:12 PM

  376. Hi all,

    Thanks for all ur help. Already done my oating.

    Just need to wait for 2-3 yrs for the letter from MHC.

    Sulli^^

    Sulli

    19 September, 2009 at 12:04 PM

  377. HI!all I just went down to MHC today 25/09/09 and when i got a appoinment date , i’ve gone mad and almost fainted…is on….13/04/09….@#$?&%..>6 months….it almost hit the dead line

    Chongck

    25 September, 2009 at 1:20 PM

  378. HI!all I just went down to MHC today 25/09/09 and when i got a appoinment date , i’ve gone mad and almost fainted…is on….13/04/09….@#$?&%..>6 months….it almost hit the date line

    Chongck

    25 September, 2009 at 1:20 PM

  379. opss sorry appintment on 13/04/10

    Chongck

    25 September, 2009 at 1:27 PM

  380. Yup, that’s expected…

    Beluga

    25 September, 2009 at 5:22 PM

  381. I’m not surprise that someday, the queue takes longer time than the application process itself. MHC only process about 30 applicants a day. So, go imagine what’s the queue like for 6 months.

    Beluga

    25 September, 2009 at 5:30 PM

  382. Can I confirm that during submission of renounciation :do we need to bring my parents’ “original” IC or just the “photocopied” parents’ IC will do?

    Jun Hong

    25 September, 2009 at 5:30 PM

  383. Photocopied will do….

    Beluga

    25 September, 2009 at 5:32 PM

  384. anyone know what is sijil kerakyatan singapura?

    Chongck

    28 September, 2009 at 11:55 AM

  385. Hi all!

    according to the documents checklist if you are :

    1)Age21/22

    2)Born outside M’sia

    3)without M’sia i/c/M/citizenship cert.

    4)if any of the parent is not m’sian

    you will need 2 copies of parent’s i/c,b/c/p/p…during submission…

    so how about if we are non of the above mentioned? do we still need to have photocopies of parent i/c during submission?

    Chongck

    28 September, 2009 at 12:19 PM

  386. Hi Chong,

    sijil kerakyatan singapura = Certificate of Singapore Citizenship. Can’t help you on any other questions as I wasn’t from this category….

    Beluga

    28 September, 2009 at 9:37 PM

  387. For those who are concern your Malaysia property:

    I have transferred mine to my father and mother and it cost RM2K plus for the legal and stamp fees.

    In case some of you don’t know: Foreigner need to pay levy fee of RM10,000 when you purchase a property in MY. I have checked with the my solicitor and bank officer for my bank loan. Both said if I have become S’porean, next time I sell my property will need to pay back the levy.

    So I advise you to either sell it or tranfer it to your MY relativen first.

    Jun Hong

    29 September, 2009 at 11:52 AM

  388. Hi Jun Hong,

    Thanks for the sharing.

    My solicitor told me something different, he mentioned currently Malaysia Goverment waived the levy for foreigner who sell their property in Malaysia. Just that he was not sure when the Malaysia Goverment will impose the levy again..

    Please correct me if I was wrong….:)

    small

    29 September, 2009 at 8:44 PM

  389. I have 2 MY birthcert: Borang A (small paper size issued during registration of birth) and Borang M (A4 paper size- my father told me this is the formal birthcert).

    I wonder shall I submit both or just submit one?

    If submit only one, which one should I submit?

    Jun Hong

    30 September, 2009 at 1:09 PM

  390. Hi Jun Hong,

    Not sure on that but I think it shall be Borng M…U born in Malaysia?

    FYI, my children who born in Singapore were holding Singapore B/C and the Borong W which issued by MHC..

    small

    30 September, 2009 at 10:41 PM

  391. I born in Malaysia. For those who have submitted your MY birthcert, can I check your birthcert is small paper size one?

    Jun Hong

    1 October, 2009 at 10:35 AM

  392. Hi Jun Hong,

    Mine was small one, slightly bigger than half of A4 size.

    To be safe, you may need to check with MHC on this.

    You can also just photocopy both and bring them along during the submission.

    small

    1 October, 2009 at 10:58 PM

  393. Anyone know how to prove that your kid is a Singapore citizen after the ICA citizenship registration, in order to entitle the subsidize in Childcare fees? ICA issued temporary IC for adult but no document for kid.

    kong

    4 October, 2009 at 10:57 AM

  394. Hi Kong,

    You can their SIngapore Passport as the proof. :)

    small

    4 October, 2009 at 7:48 PM

  395. Hi all,

    Can anyone advise me on the NEE? Does everyone need to go thru NEE? My letter from ICA do not states anything abt NEE. Pls advise.

    Lin

    5 October, 2009 at 2:11 AM

  396. Hihi…

    I got my MHC appointment to submit the Borang K on 25march2010. So do i now need to go online make e-appointment with ICA NOW or wait until near march2010?

    Jes

    5 October, 2009 at 2:17 AM

  397. Hi Jes,

    It’s quite safe to set the ICA appointment 2 weeks after 25th March… You’re given 2 chance to rebook your appointment 2 times online. After 2 times, you can still change again by calling them.

    Beluga

    5 October, 2009 at 7:34 AM

  398. Hi Jes,

    If u want yr Spore passport fast and don’t mind making one more trip down to ICA, u can actually use the Renunciation Memo(half A4 size),which will be given on 25th Mar (provided all yr documents are in proper order!) to do the Spore Citizenship registration first and follow up after u obtain the Renunciation Letter from MHC (at lease 7 Working Days after the date of submission).

    So u can change yr ICA appointment to 25th Mar afternoon (‘cos submission to MHC is in the morning) or the next day. Otherwise yr may want to schedule after the 7th working days.

    So pls, pls check and ensure all documents MHC called for are ready before 25th Mar!!

    Thanks Florence for sharing her experience in Sep09 :) And a BIG THANK YOU to all the kind people in this page :)

    I tried the same and it works. Mine : MHC appointment 1st Oct, ICA appointment 2nd Oct, citizenship registered and submitted passport application. Just that need to submit the MHC letter to ICA which I’ll be collecting on 12 Oct.

    U should change ICA appointment fast ‘cos Mar10/Apr10 almost fully booked the last time I log-in to their e-appiontment website.

    Anonymous

    6 October, 2009 at 4:13 PM

  399. Hehe.. I guess the spirit of Malaysians (or should I say, ex-Malaysians or soon to be ex-Malaysians) to help each other is still strong within us.

    Beluga

    7 October, 2009 at 11:23 AM

  400. Hi Anonymous,

    Thanks for ur precious info.

    So mean I actually can book appointment wif ICA on 25March2010 itself to do all the necessary application and registration right? Btw, how u get the info that we actually can use the Renunciation Memo(half A4 size) to do? U so resourceful leh … “Thumb up”

    Can I double check again to prevent extra trip down to MCH, do we need to type the forms or we can write neatly and submit?

    Pls help to advice! Thanks!!!!

    Jes

    9 October, 2009 at 1:01 PM

  401. Hi Anonymous and Beluga,

    Thanks for ur precious info.

    So mean I actually can book appointment wif ICA on 25March2010 itself to do all the necessary application and registration right? Btw, how u get the info that we actually can use the Renunciation Memo(half A4 size) to do? U so resourceful leh … “Thumb up”

    Can I double check again to prevent extra trip down to MCH, do we need to type the forms or we can write neatly and submit?

    Pls help to advice! Thanks!!!!

    Jes

    9 October, 2009 at 1:02 PM

  402. Hi Jes,

    Both way are okay for MHC forms…:)

    small

    9 October, 2009 at 3:50 PM

  403. Hi Jes

    Don’t bother to type. Your forms are photostated ones right? I can tell you, when you are there on the appt day, you will be asked to fill the forms AGAIN on the original forms, which is yellowish in colour. Try to look for my previous postings on this site.

    Beluga...

    9 October, 2009 at 4:37 PM

  404. Hi Beluga,

    O izzit?! Yes, mine is the photosated copies… why MCH dont just give us the original forms to fill in? Or maybe they want to check whether u fill in correctly before they let u fill in the original forms?

    By the way, I heard from a friend that she attended NEE tour couple yrs before. Do we need to attend NEE too? Any one attended?

    Jes

    11 October, 2009 at 10:03 PM

  405. Hi Jes,

    I think probably the forms are limited and too many ppl are making mistakes in filling out. On the day of the submission, The Bengali lady will go through first, then 2nd round of going through then only they give you the original form to be filled out.

    YES, NEE is COMPULSORY. You will be given a ticket stub at the end of the tour which I have forgotten how it will be used later on but it’s basically to prove that you’ve attended the tour.

    Beluga

    12 October, 2009 at 9:49 AM

  406. Hi Jes,

    I got all the valuable advices from this page. Read all the posting and you’ll find most of the answer here :-)

    Yes, ICA would ask for the ticket stub as the prove to yr NEE attendance during the citizenship registration process.

    I’ve received a notice from ICA informing that my passport is ready for collection liao. Of couse, I still need to give ICA the documents which i’ll collecting today (12Oct09).

    And the last thing from now is wait 2 years for the proper renunciation letter from MHC and submit to ICA, then the whole renunciation process is consider over & done. MHC will mail that to you, so do inform MHC on any changes to your mailing address within these 2 years.

    Good luck to you, Jes…..

    Anonymous

    12 October, 2009 at 11:16 AM

  407. Can anyone advise when they’ll inform the date of NEE as i’ve completed everything and now waiting for NEE…

    Sheryl

    12 October, 2009 at 11:57 AM

  408. Hi Sheryl,

    Don’t confuse between NEE and the ceremony of citizenship laa… Make the rest of ppl here gabra only… NEE is the introduction tour about Singapore which everyone has to attend which is normally the first thing to do when you receive the letter of approval from ICA. I did a check on your previous postings and I think you’ve completed everything right?

    Don’t worry, they will definitely send you the letter of invitation to attend the ceremony. I just received mine last week. Mine will be on 31st October at Discovery Centre.

    Beluga

    12 October, 2009 at 12:11 PM

  409. I didn’t confuse as i haven’t received both NEE & the ceremony invitation.

    I’ve completed everything EXCEPT above… Funny ???? ICA will send notice to us regarding NEE ???

    Sheryl

    12 October, 2009 at 3:19 PM

  410. Huh? How could you proceed to complete your citizenship application without going through the NEE? You have not gone for a tour to visit the parliament at all?

    Beluga

    12 October, 2009 at 3:31 PM

  411. Dear Beluga,

    Already called ICA and i’ve double checked on the letter of approval, there’s no indication regarding NEE.

    Officer in charged had told me that since everything had been completed then is ok without NEE.

    Now only waiting for the ceremony of new citizenship…

    Sheryl

    12 October, 2009 at 3:34 PM

  412. Hehehe…. I guess they overlooked it…. Anyway, it’s a boring tour…. But you get a free meal of char beehoon, chicken wings, samosa and kueh-kueh… ^^;

    Beluga

    12 October, 2009 at 3:46 PM

  413. Then i should thanks for the overlooked ! ha ha …

    Sheryl

    12 October, 2009 at 4:11 PM

  414. Beluga,

    Congratulations, finally you and your family will receive the pink I/Cs and the whole ceremony will take about 4 hours. :)

    small

    12 October, 2009 at 8:09 PM

  415. Hi Small,

    Damn, that means I’ll need to bear with napthalene smell that comes from my tie which I’ve not used it for years! Think of it also feel nauseating already man! Must bring it out and air it earlier…. :-)

    Beluga

    13 October, 2009 at 10:17 AM

  416. Hi Beluga,

    lol, if you hate tie, just attend the ceremony without tie, this was I did last time.

    small

    14 October, 2009 at 6:14 AM

  417. Hi,

    I had 3 kids, 10,13 & 15yrs old, anybody can advise how is the procedure after we had received Letter of approval from ICA?

    Anita

    23 October, 2009 at 12:54 PM

  418. Hi Anita,

    Currently the most important thing for you is go to MHC ASAP with your ICA approval letter to get Borang K and the submission date which I believed will be 6 months form now.

    The rest of things. documents that need for submission will be listed in the Borong K and you can easily find more details of Borong K in this page.

    small

    25 October, 2009 at 9:26 AM

  419. Hi Small,

    How about for my 3 kids, do they need to apply for Borang K? How is process at ICA for my 3 kids?

    Anita,

    26 October, 2009 at 8:12 AM

  420. Hi Anita,

    As mentioned by small, bring the letter you received from ICA to MHC immediately to book the renunciation date. It has been backlogged to more than 6 months. Every members will have to apply but to book the date, only you alone go is enough. Since all your kids are below 18 years old, they will not be able to give up their Msian citizenship until they are 18. By then, they will have to give the Malaysian citizenship themself.

    As for the rest of the procedures, please read the postings here. We have already did everyone a favour by spending time writing our experience here. So, do us back a favour by reading it… Anything part that you don’t understand, do ask us and we are certainly glad to help….

    Beluga

    26 October, 2009 at 2:11 PM

  421. Hi Anita,

    For “minor” (below 21 years old), there isn’t any renoucement need to be made. Just need to fill a form to return Malaysia international passport. she/he will be given a chance at 21 to choose Malaysia citizenship again.

    small

    26 October, 2009 at 9:20 PM

  422. Hi Beluga & small,

    Thanks, how about process at ICA for my kids? Just go for NEE, take oath and passport application wil do?

    Anita

    27 October, 2009 at 12:59 PM

  423. Hi Anita,

    Not sure your kids needs to attend the NEE since they are below 18 but they are quite grown up, so it would be good to attend if it’s allowed. Anyway, yea, basic procedure is NEE -> renounce -> oath -> apply passport. Oath, IC and passport can apply on the same day.

    Anonymous

    27 October, 2009 at 1:06 PM

  424. Hi Anonymous,

    Thanks for your info.

    Anita

    27 October, 2009 at 1:44 PM

  425. Hi Anita,

    Have you booked the date to renounce at MHC? The earliest date should be no earlier than April 2010 by now.

    Beluga

    27 October, 2009 at 3:59 PM

  426. Hi Beluga,

    Actualy I still waiting approval letter from ICA, submitted 16-Mar-09. I kiasu lah, need to prepare everything early.

    Anita

    28 October, 2009 at 8:02 AM

  427. Wah Kaoz…. Long way to go man! Anyway, 16-Mar, should be anytime now. I’m assuming your hubby is a Malaysian and preferred not to convert? In that case, it will usually take a little longer compared to those whole family convert. My wife’s colleague went to the ICA to submit the same time as us. We converted the whole family whereas for her case, only she and her young son. She got it almost 2 months later than us. Anyway, condition changes all the time… We’ll never know what’s their priority. All in all, I think your citizenship process should complete some time in Q2 2010.

    Beluga

    28 October, 2009 at 10:34 AM

  428. Hi Beluga,

    Wah! You’re right! My hubby not convert yet, must clear msia property if not have to pay a lot of tax. You cleared my puzzle cos I am thinking why I waiting more than 6mths compared to others.

    Anita

    28 October, 2009 at 12:56 PM

  429. Hi Anita,

    Unless you have lots of perperties in Malaysia, otherwise it will not no much different in term of taxation.

    In April-209, my solicitor mentioned Malaysia Goverment waived the levy for foreigner who sell their property in Malaysia, just that he was not sure when Malaysia Goverment will impose the levy again, I think the levy will be something like 4~5% of the profit that we gained from the deal..

    small

    28 October, 2009 at 7:08 PM

  430. Honestly, I’m very afraid to email them again.

    They might inform me that renunciation process has been reviewed, and due to the increase in renunciations, the entire process will take four years.

    Very afraid.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    28 October, 2009 at 9:22 PM

  431. Hi Chris,

    Scary…….

    small

    28 October, 2009 at 9:37 PM

  432. I think the cert of renunciation is just a formality. As a sizeable group, I don’t think SG will revoke our citizenship just because Msia gov is slow. Anyway, we’ll never know and the situation we are facing now is something unique, so only time will tell…

    Beluga

    29 October, 2009 at 2:04 PM

  433. Anyway, Chris, the excuse they gave really don’t make sense. Aren’t it suppose to be first in first out basis in term of processing? Your application was completed over 2 years ago, which at that point of time has not many people renouncing their citizenship right? What’s the waiting period that time? less than 3 months right? Gosh, so that means for our case, which is over 4 months, got to wait over 4 years? Msia really boleh….

    Anonymous

    29 October, 2009 at 2:09 PM

  434. I have absolutely no idea. I never like the feeling of sitting on the fence, and I’ve been on it for 2 1/2 years already? ICA will grant you an extension when you forward them proof that Malaysian side is causing the delay.

    When I initially applied, they stated that the renunciation period was 2 years. It came as a shock, but I had to accept it.

    NOW, THEY HAVE CHANGED IT TO 3 YEARS, WITHOUT EVEN INFORMING ME. It was only when I asked (because ICA deadline was drawing near), that I got that unfavorable response.

    I understand your question, but I have no idea whether there is a correlation between waiting period and completion time line. Hopefully not. Until anyone can provide more details of their last feedback from Malaysian side, let us all assume now that the MAX is 3 years, regardless of application waiting time.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    29 October, 2009 at 2:39 PM

  435. Anyway, their(as in Msia) attitude has always been, “Why should be provide convenience to the foreigners”. Haha, for all that we know, Msia PM may someday tell SG PM, that releasing the renunciation cert will be part of the water and railway package…. Doh! I really shouldn’t give them more ideas…

    Beluga

    29 October, 2009 at 4:50 PM

  436. Just completed the Citizenship ceremony last weekend.

    Planning to apply PR for my parents next. Anyone has any experience? What’s the chance of getting it?

    Beluga

    2 November, 2009 at 9:49 AM

  437. Hi,

    Anyone have any experience on the minor who reached 12 years old need to apply Malaysian I/C? Thanks in advance.

    small8

    4 November, 2009 at 8:44 PM

  438. After the application for Singapore citizenship is approved (btwn 2-3 months after submission), will the applicant be issued with a Singapore passport? As the Malaysians are required to surrender their original valid passport to MHC when they do their renunciation, how are they going to travel? Or will they have a singapore passport to facilitate their traveling since they no longer have their msian passports?

    Samantha

    5 November, 2009 at 11:52 PM

  439. Hi Samantha,

    Please read this webpage, lots of info that will help you on the process to renouncing the Citizenship.

    You will need go to MHC for:

    1) Collection of form K

    2) Submission of form K (6~7 months later)

    3) Collection of Proof of Renunciation (afteer 10 WORKING days)

    Once you have submitted the Borong ‘K’, MHC will ask you to go back after 10 working days to collect your ‘Proof of Renunciation’ slip, this slip will be sufficient for you to take oath, apply Singapore IC and passport at ICA. The Passport will bbe ready within 3~5 working days.

    Anonymous

    6 November, 2009 at 7:17 AM

  440. Hi Anonymous…

    Thank you for taking the time to reply to my query. I wud like to clarify these:

    a. Do I need the the approval letter from Spore Immigration before I can collect the Borang K or can I go collect the borang K anytime while waiting for Spore’s approval letter?

    b. If I read your reply correctly, does it mean that I will not have a passport for approx 13-15 days (2-3 weeks). Meaning when I submit the borang K, i wud have to surrender my msian passport together with other docs, then about 10 days later, I will collect the Proof of Renunciation Slip fm MCH. And with this proof, I will be able to apply for my Spore passport

    c. After reading through this website, I understand that the waiting time just to submit the borang K is now btwn 6-9 months. Does this mean I will have to use my Singapore passport for travelling?

    I am very concern over not having a passport to travel during the 6-9 months while waiting for an appointment date fm MCH to submit borang K.

    Can anyone advise me please? Thank you

    Samantha

    6 November, 2009 at 10:04 AM

  441. Hi Samantha,

    You only need to surrender your passport on the day you submit the borang K, which you have to book at MHC. So, in the meanwhile, you are still 100% a Malaysian and you can of course travel anywhere with your Malaysian passport. So, lets say after you have gone through the renunciation submission at MHC, you can do it in 2 ways

    Method 1

    - Make the ICA submission appointment the next day after the renunciation submission at MHC.

    - On the day of the renunciation submission at MHC, you will get a renunciation acknowledgement slip after it’s done.

    - Go the the ICA appointment the next day and show this acknowledgement slip to them that you’ve submitted.

    - Perform your Oath of allegiance to Singapore

    - Do your IC

    - Apply your SG passport.

    - 3 working days later, go back to ICA to collect passport.

    - 7 working days later, go back to MHC to get the stack of document to prove that you have renounced your citizenship. (This is NOT a renunciation cert, which you have to wait 2 to 3 years).

    - Hand this prove of renunciation document to ICA.

    Method 2

    - Make the ICA submission appointment at least 7 working days after the renunciation submission at MHC.

    - Go to the renunciation process at MHC and you will get the acknowledgement slip.

    - Wait for 7 working days and go back to MHC to get the stack of document to prove that you have renounced your citizenship.

    - Go the the ICA appointment show this renunciation document

    - Perform your Oath of allegiance to Singapore

    - Do your IC

    - Apply your SG passport.

    - 3 working days later, go back to ICA to collect passport.

    Method 1 will let you get your passport faster. Method will save you less trip to ICA.

    Beluga

    6 November, 2009 at 10:30 AM

  442. Hi Samantha,

    You only need to surrender your passport on the day you submit the borang K, which you have to book at MHC. So, in the meanwhile, you are still 100% a Malaysian and you can of course travel anywhere with your Malaysian passport. So, lets say after you have gone through the renunciation submission at MHC, you can do it in 2 ways

    Method 1

    - Make the ICA submission appointment the next day after the renunciation submission at MHC.

    - On the day of the renunciation submission at MHC, you will get a renunciation acknowledgement slip after it’s done.

    - Go the the ICA appointment the next day and show this acknowledgement slip to them that you’ve submitted.

    - Perform your Oath of allegiance to Singapore

    - Do your IC

    - Apply your SG passport.

    - 3 working days later, go back to ICA to collect passport.

    - 7 ~ 10 working days later, go back to MHC to get the stack of document to prove that you have renounced your citizenship. (This is NOT a renunciation cert, which you have to wait 2 to 3 years).

    - Hand this prove of renunciation document to ICA.

    Method 2

    - Make the ICA submission appointment at least 10 working days after the renunciation submission at MHC.

    - Go to the renunciation process at MHC and you will get the acknowledgement slip.

    - Wait for 7~10 working days and go back to MHC to get the stack of document to prove that you have renounced your citizenship.

    - Go the the ICA appointment show this renunciation document

    - Perform your Oath of allegiance to Singapore

    - Do your IC

    - Apply your SG passport.

    - 3 working days later, go back to ICA to collect passport.

    Method 1 will let you get your passport faster. Method will save you less trip to ICA.

    Beluga

    6 November, 2009 at 10:32 AM

  443. You cannot obtain the borang K (that’s small matter) or book an appointment date BEFORE you got ICA approval letter. If this is permissible, I’m sure the queue will be longer than a year.

    Beluga

    6 November, 2009 at 10:37 AM

  444. You cannot obtain the borang K (that’s small matter) or book an appointment date BEFORE you got ICA approval letter. If this is permissible, I’m sure the queue will be longer than a year.

    Beluga

    6 November, 2009 at 10:38 AM

  445. Hi Beluga,

    You have been most helpful and I am very grateful to you. All the info and guide you listed above, has given me a very clear picture of the whole process and I feel much at ease to now surrender my msian citizenship… Im holding on to my msian citizenship only for sentimental value, other than this, I cant see how else and what Msia can offer me. I have been away for tooo long.

    Once again, Beluga, with my sincere thanks

    Samantha

    6 November, 2009 at 12:58 PM

  446. Reading through this citizenship conversion process, I notice that the malaysians have to surrender their passports,IC, birth cert etc documents before a Singapore passport is being issued to them. Doesnt that mean they are officially “stateless/passportless” for about 2-3 weeks (10 days wait for renunciation slip fm MHC, 5 days wait for Spore passport)? It sounds strange that the msians have to denounce their citizenship n surrender their msian passport before getting a Singapore passport/citizenship. In the unlikeliest circumstances, i wonder what will happen if someone who has denounced his/her citizenship and surrender his/her msian passport failed to obtain a Singapore passport/Citizenship? Isnt there a risk here?

    Samantha

    6 November, 2009 at 1:21 PM

  447. Hi Samantha,

    You’re welcome…

    Well, 2 ~ 3 weeks of stateless is a phase that everyone goes through. There’s no 2 ways about it. As I’ve mentioned, Method 1 is the shortest way to get your passport. When ICA has approved your citizenship, they have in-principle, guaranteed your citizenship, unless there’s a major change in the status quo, perhaps such as committing a crime.

    There are some things that I can’t say it in a public website.

    Beluga

    6 November, 2009 at 2:08 PM

  448. Hi Samantha,

    Not that I want to scare you but there’s also a chance that SG may revoke our SG citizenship if some day, MY refuse to release the certificate of renunciation. I have no idea how real this is. Chris, the admin of this webby has waited for over 2 years and ICA has started asking him for it. Check out his posts.

    Beluga

    6 November, 2009 at 2:15 PM

  449. Hi Beluga,

    Yes i agree. The bigger risk is the time taken to produce the renunciation cert, not the 2-3 weeks of being stateless. So while waiting for the cert from MHC, we just continue to renew our Spore passport as and when it expires? What wud be the validity of the Singapore passport when it is issued to us? I read Chris’s notes and saw that there is a deadline imposed by Spore Immigration for which we hv to tender our renunciation cert. Wud our spore passport and the deadline to produce the renun cert have the same validity?

    Anonymous

    6 November, 2009 at 3:01 PM

  450. deadline = dateline

    dead=mati sounds so appropriate with bolehland

    Anonymous

    6 November, 2009 at 3:13 PM

  451. The renunciation cert and the renewal of passport is a separate matter. So long as a person is still recognised as a Singapore citizen, not declared a bankrupt and not under any criminal charge, there’s no reason why he/she cannot renew passport. The validity of the SG passport used to be 10 years but to conform to the UN rules to make it biometric, it has been shortened to 5 years.

    Beluga

    6 November, 2009 at 3:17 PM

  452. HI Beluga,

    You are superb, your explaination to Smantha was much more clearer than me. :)

    In your reply to Samantha, you mentioned in Method 1:

    “- 7 ~ 10 working days later, go back to MHC to get the stack of document to prove that you have renounced your citizenship. (This is NOT a renunciation cert, which you have to wait 2 to 3 years).”

    I wonder what is this? Can you please elaborate a bit more? many thanks in advance.

    smal

    6 November, 2009 at 10:42 PM

  453. Hi Beluga,

    For my case, after we got our SG passport, I did not go back to MHC to collect anything.

    small

    6 November, 2009 at 10:50 PM

  454. Hi Small,

    What I meant was the document which you will have to collect 7 to 10 days after you have gone to MHC to renounce your citizenship. Immediately after the renunciation, you will receive a small slip, which is good enough for the ICA to do the Oath and application of SG IC. However, they will still want you to give them the renounciation document from the MHC which you receive from MHC. In the usual process, we will wait until you get this renunciation document from MHC then only proceed to do your oath.

    I suppose what you did was the same as what I did too…. Wait for 7 days, get the renunciation document from MHC then only go to ICA…

    Beluga

    7 November, 2009 at 1:45 PM

  455. Hi Beluga,

    Thanks for youe clarification…

    lol, I forgot everything after the renounciation process…

    The only that i still rememeber was after submission of Borong K, 10 working days later I went back to MHC to get the renunciation letter and proceed to do my oath.

    small

    7 November, 2009 at 10:53 PM

  456. Hi Beluga,

    A lazy people like me sure wanna to make lesser trip to ICA..

    I don’t mind to be a stateless people for 10 working days after the renunciation proces at MHC. :-)

    small

    7 November, 2009 at 11:09 PM

  457. Hi small,

    Which explains why because it takes bigger effort for you to be in different places since you’re small…. ;-)

    Beluga....

    9 November, 2009 at 10:10 AM

  458. Appreciate for any advicce.

    For minor by regisration who reach to 12 years old, do they need to apply Malaysia IC?

    small

    10 November, 2009 at 5:31 AM

  459. Hi Small,

    Is that even necessary to do the ic for them? My rationale is that ic is mostly needed when the needs to apply for anything under their name. Since likely your children has nothing to do there, why bother?

    Beluga

    10 November, 2009 at 9:24 AM

  460. Hi Small,

    Is that even necessary to do the ic for them? My rationale is that ic is mostly needed when the needs to apply for anything under their name. Since likely your children has nothing to do there, why bother?

    Beluga

    10 November, 2009 at 9:25 AM

  461. Beluga…wow you helpful yo…..

    i going my citizenship ceremony on 21st. my god…what i need to do?boring..?

    Florence

    18 November, 2009 at 4:51 PM

  462. Beluga…wow you helpful yo…..

    i going my citizenship ceremony on 21st. my god…what i need to do?boring..?

    Florence

    18 November, 2009 at 4:51 PM

  463. Hi Florence,

    Just doll up yourself and be pretty. Haha… No need to memorise the pledge as it will be projected on the screen. The ceremony is not that long actually. Mine was held at Singapore Discovery Centre at 3 pm. It started with the registration, then when everybody has sat down, there’s a short video clip to watch while waiting for the minister to arrive. When the minister arrive, there’ll be a short speech and immediately followed by the presentation of citizenship cert to each members. My batch was around 300 members. I noticed that there are 4 main races, PRC chinese, Msia Chinese, Filipino, and Myanmarese. Anyway, after the presentation is over, there will be pledge and singing of national anthem. That’s the end of it. Chop Chop…. Then there will be a nice buffet lunch. I was joking at my wife saying, “I think this is probably the last free meal we’ll ever get from the gahmen”… Haha… All were given an option to take a free tour at the Discovery Centre after the service and we did. Everything finished (including the free tour) at around 5:30 pm.

    Anonymous

    20 November, 2009 at 7:31 AM

  464. By the way, did anybody apply PR for their parents after they got their citizenship? If so, what’s the success rate? I just applied for them yesterday. Was given a 3 months wait.

    Beluga

    20 November, 2009 at 7:34 AM

  465. …thanks thanks Beluga:D

    wow, faint!i think will sleeping o…so many video to present:(

    Florence

    20 November, 2009 at 2:45 PM

  466. Hi Beluga,

    Good thing for you and your parents since ICA accepted the application. All the best and good luck. I think at least ICA will issue your parents the long term social visit pass. :)

    small

    21 November, 2009 at 9:59 PM

  467. Hi Small,

    Yea, they are already on SVP for the last 10 years or so. As far as gov is concern, I don’t think they have any problem issuing such visa because those on SVP will not be able to get any social benefits. PR is a different story though. That is why I’m not really optimistic of them getting it.

    Beluga

    23 November, 2009 at 9:38 AM

  468. Beluga,

    wow,so sleepy…410 people on mainly Filipino,indian,PRC,malaysian.

    I think next i need to follow up, epf malaysia :D

    Florence

    24 November, 2009 at 10:53 AM

  469. I posted the steps on how to withdraw the EPF on my previous postings… Go check it out… It’s quite straight-forward and fast. Remember to “chia” me makan after you got your money… Hehehe….

    Beluga

    24 November, 2009 at 11:59 AM

  470. Beluga,

    Sure no problem :)

    Indeed!

    I worked area Suntec, TPY. You around here?

    Thanks

    Florence

    24 November, 2009 at 4:33 PM

  471. Sad that chillibabe76 account has been cancelled…

    http://chillibabe76.multiply.com/

    small

    12 December, 2009 at 4:19 PM

  472. Haha…. Not MIA laa…. Nothing to say maaa…..

    Beluga

    14 December, 2009 at 9:46 AM

  473. Florence wanna belanja you mah, but you did not response her…

    small

    14 December, 2009 at 8:08 PM

  474. Hahaha…. Yea, but I shy maa…. Hey, Christmas is around the corner. Anyone interested to meetup? Those interested email me at crjjpn at gmail dot com.

    Beluga

    15 December, 2009 at 9:55 AM

  475. Wah, so quiet here nowadays. I can almost hear the cricket sound….. We must have done a darn great job in answering all the questions leading to completion of Singapore citizenship. Hehehehe…..

    Anyway, wish all you guys great Christmas and Happy New Year. Also, may god bless Msia as they really need it…

    Beluga

    21 December, 2009 at 8:52 PM

  476. school fee for PR up next year, more and more PR will apply for Singapore Citizen.

    kong

    21 December, 2009 at 10:18 PM

  477. Dear all, have just received my Collection of Form K letter and updated the website.

    Wishing you all a merry Christmas!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    22 December, 2009 at 11:57 AM

  478. Great Christmas present from Msia!

    Beluga

    22 December, 2009 at 5:21 PM

  479. Congratulation Chris…..

    small

    22 December, 2009 at 8:09 PM

  480. Hey Beluga and Small. Thanks! When do you have to collect yours?

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    23 December, 2009 at 12:35 AM

  481. err….think mine will be another 2 years from now..

    small

    23 December, 2009 at 5:11 AM

  482. I think mine will take longer than the next country bidding to host the Olympic…

    Beluga

    23 December, 2009 at 9:41 AM

  483. At least you guys are waiting for the documents to be processed. There’s nothing more to do other than wait, and keep emailing them in intervals of 2 to 3 months.

    Three members of my family, including me, have to go through this process. My mum is waiting (still years to go) and my sis hasn’t started her renunciation process yet as she has not reached the minimum age.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    23 December, 2009 at 1:50 PM

  484. Well, 2 of my children will have to renounce on their own merit….

    Beluga

    23 December, 2009 at 4:06 PM

  485. Gosh, I wish they would do something about the waiting time.

    The joy of completing the renunciation process (2 1/2 years) is so overwhelming I am going to celebrate with my friends and get drunk tonight. They are going to be so happy for me.

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    23 December, 2009 at 4:45 PM

  486. It will be shorter foe our children if they can do the renunciation process at JB.

    small

    23 December, 2009 at 5:06 PM

  487. Hahaha…. Wah, must frame up and hang in your room…

    Beluga

    23 December, 2009 at 5:26 PM

  488. Happy New Year 2010 to everyone….

    Anonymous

    1 January, 2010 at 12:03 AM

  489. Hi all,

    If the ICA can’t extend the deadline, this mean that i have to re-apply the singapore citizenship? If I apply again, will it be harder to get the approval of the singapore citizenship?

    Thanks. Reply ASAP.

    Anonymous

    1 January, 2010 at 1:09 PM

  490. Hi all,

    If the ICA cannot extend the deadline. Does that mean that I have to re-apply for the Singapore Citizenship(whole process again)? If I apply for the second time, will it be harder to get the approval for Singapore Citizenship?

    Please reply asap. Thank you so much!

    Haha

    1 January, 2010 at 1:14 PM

  491. Nah, I don’t think that will happen, though I can’t be 100% sure of this. If this were to happen, there will be tens of thousands of people affected. What will likely happen is that SG side will continue to probe us for the renunciation certificate… Like the case of Chris, the owner of this site, he got the cert after 2 years and 5 months. Those later batch than him will certainly take a longer time to get it.

    Beluga...

    1 January, 2010 at 5:46 PM

  492. Hi,

    Thanks. I received the approval letter on 4 Sep 09 but I didn’t know that the renunciation of Malaysia Citizenship will take so long, hence, I haven’t go the MHC to get the forms. I’m afraid that I need to re-apply for the Singapore citizenship because of that.

    Haha

    1 January, 2010 at 6:31 PM

  493. Hi Haha,

    I hope you don’t get confused with something…. There are 2 parts in renunciation that is time consuming. First part is to obtain the date to renounce. This could take more than 6 months. For that, I heard the new batch of newly approved applicants has been given 6 months to renounce instead of 3 months. Even then I highly doubt it’s sufficient. However, this problem is very easy to solve. Just go ahead and book the date from MHC first then give ICA a call or reschedule your oath taking about 2 weeks after the renunciation date. Once you’ve submitted the renunciation form, it’s irrevocable and hence Singapore allow you to take up the oath and and be their citizen. As for the second of the waiting, which will take years, I did ask ICA about it on the day of taking oath. What they said is, when 2 years is due and you have not received the renunciation cert, just inform ICA and they will remind you again every year. Of course, they may change the story anytime they want in future….

    Beluga...

    2 January, 2010 at 2:18 PM

  494. Hi,

    Thanks for your information. But I have one more thing to clarify. The booking of date at MHC which you have stated is also the sumission date of the forms right? I’m kind of confused.

    Thanks.

    Haha

    2 January, 2010 at 3:37 PM

  495. Hi haha,

    This is the renunciation process:

    1) Collection of form ‘K’ from MHC and get the submission date (which is 6~9months later)

    2) Submission (subject to above)

    3) – Make the ICA submission appointment at least 7 working days after the renunciation submission at MHC.

    - Go to the renunciation process at MHC and you will get the acknowledgement slip.

    - Wait for 7 working days and go back to MHC to get the stack of document to prove that you have renounced your citizenship.

    - Go the the ICA appointment show this renunciation document

    - Perform your Oath of allegiance to Singapore

    - Do your IC

    - Apply your SG passport.

    - 3 working days later, go back to ICA to collect passport.

    3) Collection of Proof of Renunciation from Malyasia to complete the whole process. (this will 2~5 years after the Submission date @ MHC.

    Hope these help.

    Anonymous

    3 January, 2010 at 7:22 AM

  496. Geez…. You have been sitting on the approval letter and doing nothing for 3 months? Usually, the best way forward is upon receiving the letter from ICA, immediately go to the MHC to book the date of submission which is at least 6 months away. Yes, the booking of a date with MHC is to submit the renunciation letters. The submission date will be chopped on the borang K. For whatever reason that is still holding you back, there is no harm to book the date with MHC and collect the form first because there will be no record done when you book the date. So, go and book the date first and you still have over 6 months to think about it….

    Anonymous

    3 January, 2010 at 8:21 AM

  497. Thanks for the information, hope that everything will go fine for me(:

    Haha

    3 January, 2010 at 5:29 PM

  498. Hi, may I know during the process of renunciation are we still holding our m’sia passport? Can we go oversea? When will MHC take back our original passport? Please advise. Thanks!

    Bee

    5 January, 2010 at 11:10 PM

  499. Hi Bee,

    On the day you submit, it will be taken away and no supplement travel document will be provided. Thus, you will not be able to travel oversea. Therefore, to minimize the period of no passport, go ahead and book your oath the day after your renunciation document submission day at MHC. After you have submitted your renunciation documents to MHC, you’ll be given an acknowledgement slip. With this slip itself, you can go ahead and do your oath the next day and drop-in your SG passport application on the same day. You will then be able to get your SG passport after 3 working days. So, there’s a lapse of about 4 to 5 days of no passport. The only disadvantage of this method is that, you will still need to make another trip to ICA to hand them over a stack renunciation acknowledgement documents which you will need to collect from MHC 7 working days after you have done your renunciation.

    Beluga

    6 January, 2010 at 9:29 AM

  500. Hi,

    How is renuciation for new born being done? I’m a Singaporean and wife a Malaysian. We got married only after the baby is born, naturally the baby is born malaysian.

    1) whats the process for application of singapore citizen for new born, how long?

    2) procedures for renuciation for new born?

    3) How long for whole process? Hoping to get baby bonus of $4000 if baby gets citizenship within 6 months.

    Thanks very much for the help.

    Chen

    6 January, 2010 at 12:03 PM

  501. Hi Chen,

    I dunno but if you are the child’s natural father, Singapore citizenship is his right, rather than a privilege. Since it’s a newborn, I don’t see why he can’t apply for SG citizenship straightaway?

    Beluga

    6 January, 2010 at 12:09 PM

  502. Hi,

    Could anyone clarify for me?

    I have received ICA approval letter and booked my appointment at MHC on 29 Dec 2009. Now the appointment is 10 May 2010. Waiting time is really long.

    Could I know if I can book the appointment for the oath at ICA on the day immediately after renunciation document submission at MHC? Eg, if I have returned my Malaysian Passport and IC on Monday and book the appointment at ICA on Tues?

    If the above can be done, what sort of document I need to produce at ICA?

    I need to obtain S’pore passport ASAP for travelling purpose after returning M’sian passport.

    One more question. Do I need to use type writer in order to fill up the Borang K before submit to MHC? Read somewhere a lot of people still have problem after receiving the actual form 2 – 3 years later if not type the form. The instruction given on the form also stated all form must be type properly.

    Wui Heng

    8 January, 2010 at 8:53 AM

  503. Wui Heng,

    Some of the questions you asked is even answered quite recently. So, please go and read it up. It’s precisely what it’s for.

    Beluga

    8 January, 2010 at 10:38 AM

  504. Hi all, i rcvd my citizenship approval within 5 weeks after submission to ICA. I went down to MHC end Dec 2009 to collect the Borang K and book my appt date. I was given end may 2010. Since I need to be overseas for 2 months from May 2010, I appealed for an earlier appt date. I must say the lady at MHC was really helpful. She gave me an appt date in JAN 2010. I submitted the borang K and all my malaysian documents to MHC and with the acknowledgement slip fm MHC, I managed to get ICA to issue me my new pink Spore I/C n my Singapore passport. I guess I am one of the very very few lucky ones who managed to go through this citizenship renunciation process in less than 2 weeks. Now I just have to wait 2-3 years to get my original renunciation cert from KL. For your info, borang K need not be typed. U can write and fill in the form neatly. If you are a Malaysian abv 21 years, u only need to submit yr original Malaysian I/C, original birthcert and passports (old n new. if u threw away your old passports, pls make a police report). You dont need to produce your parents’ I/C, birth cert etc etc… The process isnt all that messy if you follow the procedures correctly.

    Mlynn

    16 January, 2010 at 12:42 AM

  505. hi Wui Heng,

    Answers to your questions?:

    a. Yes, you can book your appt with ICA to take your oath, do your new pink Spore I/C and make your new Singapore passport after u submit your borang K and all other documents to MHC. Hwer pls note the appt with ICA has to be 7 working days later becos you have to wait 7 working days (after you submit all your documents to MHC) and go back to MHC to collect a Letter of Confirmation that you have renounced your Msian citizenship before ICA allows you to make your Spore I/C and passport. Last time ICA accepts MHC’s acknowledgement slip. These days, they want MHC’s letter, not acknowledgement slip.

    b.You dont need to type Borang K. YOu can write NEATLY and fill up the form

    c.To make your new pink IC and Spore passport, you need to bring to ICA 1. The original and 2 copies of the Letter of Renunciation fm MHC (u collect this letter fm MHC 7 working days after submission). 2 Singapore Blue I/C 3. 4 new photos

    Lastly, you will expect that you cannot travel for about 2 weeks because after surrending your msian passport, u hv to wait 7 working days to collect the letter fm MHC, then go back to ICA to make your new Singapore passport and wait another 5 working days for your new passport.

    I hope my info is helpful for you….

    Mlynn

    16 January, 2010 at 12:56 AM

  506. Wui Heng, if u need to travel urgently, you must produce proof (ticket n letter from your company etc) to ICA. They will then consider letting you make your Singapore Passport and I/C using MHC’s acknowledgement slip. Hwer do note, u still hv to submit the original letter of confirmation fm MHC once you collect it from MHC 7 working days after submission

    Anonymous

    16 January, 2010 at 1:02 AM

  507. Wui Heng, if u need to travel urgently, you must produce proof (ticket n letter from your company etc) to ICA. They will then consider letting you make your Singapore Passport and I/C using MHC’s acknowledgement slip. Hwer do note, u still hv to submit the original letter of confirmation fm MHC once you collect it from MHC 7 working days after submission

    Anonymous

    16 January, 2010 at 1:07 AM

  508. Wui Heng, if u need to travel urgently, you must produce proof (ticket n letter from your company etc) to ICA. They will then consider letting you make your Singapore Passport and I/C using MHC’s acknowledgement slip. Hwer do note, u still hv to submit the original letter of confirmation fm MHC once you collect it from MHC 7 working days after submission

    Anonymous

    16 January, 2010 at 1:08 AM

  509. Hi,

    My appt to submit Borang K is in coming march. But I need to fly off with hubby as soon as I can aft collecting my sgp passport and necessary documents, most likely in April.

    Therefore, can anyone help to advice on whether can we collect our Singapore Citizenship Certificate and pink IC at ICA itself aft everything done instead to wait for a date to collect in ceremony? Or we can collect them in later date (3 yrs later) when we return to sgp? This is because I be going overseas with hubby for at least 3years due to hubby’s job relocated therefore I may not be in sgp to collect the Citizenship Certification in the respective date given by ICA.

    Anyone who went thru this also can help to advice. Thanks!

    Serene Ng

    17 January, 2010 at 3:34 AM

  510. Hi,

    My appt to submit Borang K is in coming march. But I need to fly off with hubby as soon as I can aft collecting my sgp passport and necessary documents, most likely in April.

    Therefore, can anyone help to advice on whether can we collect our Singapore Citizenship Certificate and pink IC at ICA itself aft everything done instead to wait for a date to collect in ceremony? Or we can collect them in later date (3 yrs later) when we return to sgp? This is because I be going overseas with hubby for at least 3years due to hubby’s job relocated therefore I may not be in sgp to collect the Citizenship Certification in the respective date given by ICA.

    Anyone who went thru this also pls help to advice. Thanks!

    Serene Ng

    17 January, 2010 at 3:34 AM

  511. Serene

    Once you collect your letter from MCH (7 days after submitting borang K) u can go to ICA the next day and do yr I/C and passport. You can collect your passport within 3-5 working days. U will be given a temporary pink IC and you can only collect your original pink IC and citizenship cert 3-6 months after application. U will be presented these docs during a ceremony. I guess you will hv to ask ICA if you can authorise someone else to collect on your behalf since u will be out of Spore for a long time. Hope this is helpful for you

    Mlynn

    17 January, 2010 at 9:31 AM

  512. Hi Mlynn,

    Wow, 5 weeks! That’s fast man! Did you apply just for yourself? With kids? Or whole family? How long have you been living in Singapore? For my case, my whole family converted. We applied in end Sept 2008 and got the letter of approval in mid march 2009.

    Beluga

    18 January, 2010 at 4:19 PM

  513. I have had my PR for 25 years n just recently decided to convert!! I applied the citizenship for myself and was pleasantly surprised it got approved within 5 weeks. More surprising was that MHC helped me and advanced my appt date to Jan (it was supposed to be May 2010). Im glad the whole process took me just abt 1.5 months to complete. Im now like everyone else, waiting for MHC to give me the original renunciation cert. It will likely be in 2013. I hope Im not dead by then….

    mlynn

    18 January, 2010 at 9:17 PM

  514. Thanks, Mlynn for for your info.

    Could anyone let me know when we submit the 2 set of photocopy of passport to MHA, what sort of pages we need to photocopy?

    Could I know if I need to submit those very old original passport which I tag with my mum passport when I am still very young? (ie. Passport under my mum’s name when I travel)

    Do we need to return the valid M’sia driving license back to MHA though it doesn’t state on the form during renunciation?

    Do we need to book the appointment very early with ICA in order to make S’pore IC and Passport? I am worry MHA might delay the time frame (7 days as of now) for the letter of renunciation collection few months down the road again.

    Wui Heng

    19 January, 2010 at 8:25 AM

  515. Wui Heng,

    >Could I know if I need to submit those very old original passport which I tag with my mum passport when I am still very young? (ie. Passport under my mum’s name when I travel)

    No need…. Just submit what you have in hand though.

    >Do we need to return the valid M’sia driving license back to MHA though it doesn’t state on the form during renunciation?

    I Didn’t return mine. However, I don’t think it’s valid since the MY’s drivers license only indicate your MY IC number and you no longer have your MY IC.

    > Do we need to book the appointment very early with ICA in order to make S’pore IC and Passport? I am worry MHA might delay the time frame (7 days as of now) for the letter of renunciation collection few months down the road again.

    Not sure exactly what you mean but once you have submitted your borang K to renounce your citizenship at MHC, so far no has complained after 7 working days still cannot get the acknowledgement letter from MHC. So, it’s safe to book your appointment with ICA after 7 working days.

    Beluga

    19 January, 2010 at 12:31 PM

  516. Sorry on the typo.

    The above comment, ‘MHA’ should be ‘MHC’.

    Wui Heng

    19 January, 2010 at 1:00 PM

  517. Hi, can anyone advise what will happen to the bank acct and property in MY after renoucing MY citizenship ? Can you still hold the property if no intention to sell them ? Need to inform the bank on the changes of your particulars ?

    Dolphin

    22 January, 2010 at 12:10 AM

  518. Hi can anyone advise what will happen to my malaysian cpf (epf in Malaysia) if i convert? Can I withdraw my money and if yes, how long will the procedure takes? Thanks

    Alina

    22 January, 2010 at 11:42 AM

  519. Hi Alina,

    Yes we took out our EPF after completing the citizenship process. In fact, I posted in this forum too, the detail steps. Do a search. I think it was about 2 weeks.

    Dolphin,

    Some guys mentioned here can keep the property. As for bank account, it’s a commercial entity and therefore, can still keep it after you’ve converted.

    Beluga

    22 January, 2010 at 4:00 PM

  520. Hi Dolphin,

    As long you keep the photocopy of your Malaysian IC as the proof, I think it should not be a problem for not changing the particular of your propety in Malaysia.

    I think it will be good if we go to update our Singapore IC number and citizenship for our Malaysia bank accounts, this will facilitate us to withdraw money in the future.

    small

    23 January, 2010 at 7:04 PM

  521. If u did not keep a certified true copy of your msian I/C, your renunciation cert will be a very important document to proof that you are the same owner before and after giving up your msian citizenship. For those who havent surrender your docs, it is always good to keep certified true copy of your msian I/C

    As for bank accounts, yes you do need to update the banks as you are now no longer a resident of Msia

    Mlynn

    24 January, 2010 at 5:46 PM

  522. Hi,

    Can anyone advice that how to renew the malaysia passport for my child as myself and mywife are now singapore citizen. ( I’m still waiting for the official renunciation letter from MHC yet, it has been 2 years and 4 months since my renunciation of my malaysia citizenship). Now my child hold 2 passport, as I would like to renew the malaysia passport for my children ( to convinent for them to stay in Malaysia for more than 1 month ), what’s the procedure should I need to proceed or it’s just as normal as previously.

    Please advice. Thanks.

    ChoonBeng

    26 January, 2010 at 11:28 AM

  523. Hi Choon Beng,

    Since your child is still legally a Malaysian, it should be the same way as any Malaysians isn’t it not? So, as per usual, just go to MHC to apply.

    Beluga

    26 January, 2010 at 11:44 AM

  524. Hi, just want to find out something from you guys. I was given a date to submit all the documents (form K) for my renounce at the MHC, which was 6 months later. Wish to know if I had successfully(hopefully) submitted all the document required, and I had went to the ICA for oath taking, will I be issue with any confirmation documents? And can i apply for Singapore Passport once i had taken my oath? Thanks for the help.

    cheesyturkey

    26 January, 2010 at 1:37 PM

  525. Hi, just want to find out something from you guys. I was given a date to submit all the documents (form K) for my renounce at the MHC, which was 6 months later. Wish to know if I had successfully(hopefully) submitted all the document required, and I had went to the ICA for oath taking, will I be issue with any confirmation documents? And can i apply for Singapore Passport once i had taken my oath? Thanks for the help.

    cheesyturkey

    26 January, 2010 at 1:43 PM

  526. Hi Cheeseturkey,

    After you’ve taken your oath and apply your IC, just fill up the passport application form and drop it into their passport application box on the same day. You can collect it 3 working days later. I’ve done this myself. No need confirmation document. This is Singapore! All information is centralized in the computer system….

    Beluga

    26 January, 2010 at 3:56 PM

  527. Hi Beluga,

    Thank you very much for replying me. This definately will make my trip to ICA much less hassle.

    Another issue is when filling up the Form K, the requested IC no., Passport no. and etc, is it refering to the Malaysia IC and Passport No.?? To simplify, is it all the document no. or required document, is refering to the Malaysian document that i had?? Thank you.

    Cheesyturkey

    28 January, 2010 at 1:27 PM

  528. Hi CheesyTurkey,

    Yes it is. Unless explicitly specify that it is for SG ID/number, it’s all meant for MY document. Anyway, during my time, I was given a photostated Borang K. Only on the day of submission, I was given the original form and then have to refill all over again.

    Beluga

    28 January, 2010 at 4:16 PM

  529. Dear all,

    Thank you very much for the valuable advice.

    Dolphin

    28 January, 2010 at 8:21 PM

  530. Hi, this is wonderful site, and i just received the approval letter for my family. Think we will need to go through the pain as you guys. :(

    can someone clear my 2 questions?

    1) Can i let my kids register for citizen first? or can only do it together with parent after collect the letter from MHC?

    2) I would like to keep certified true copy of my Malaysian I/C, where can i go to make the certified copy? what is the charges?

    Thanks

    tantan

    3 February, 2010 at 4:02 PM

  531. Hi TanTan,

    Question no 2

    You can go to any Notary Public and get a photocopy of your msian I/C certified as true copy

    Mlynn

    3 February, 2010 at 11:48 PM

  532. Hi All,

    A few difficulties met when filling up my Form ‘K’.

    -What is M’sian Citizenship Cert? What if i doesn’t have it?

    -When filling up the M’sian Restricted Ppt and M’sian International Ppt, do i need to fill in ALL my 6 passport numbers? Or just one/most recent will do?

    -When filling up the Additional Information, Part 4, what reason to fill up for questions?

    Once again thanks for you guys for the help.

    Best Regards,

    cheesyturkey

    8 February, 2010 at 3:08 PM

  533. Hi Cheesyturkey,

    1. If u dont hv a msian citizenship cert, leave it blank

    2. U only need to fill up yr Msian International Passport that is still valid. Those expired ones u can just leave it out

    3. Why are you renouncing your msian citizenship? Some reasons given are :

    - married to a singaporean

    - kids are singaporean

    - working in singapore

    - parents are singaporean

    - have been living in Singapore for a very long time

    you can state whatever reason you want

    mlynn

    9 February, 2010 at 9:56 PM

  534. Hi mlynn,

    Thanks for the info. By the way, do i still need to get a copy of my parents I/C, M’sian citizenship cert (I doubt they have it) and married cert, as I’m 26 this year.

    Thank you.

    cheesyturkey

    10 February, 2010 at 11:58 AM

  535. Could anyone let me know which pages of our passport need to photocopy and submit to MHC?

    Anonymous

    10 February, 2010 at 1:13 PM

  536. Hi Cheezyturkey,

    U dont need to produce your parents I/C or birth cert if you are above 22 years old. Do read the instructions attached to borang K. It is stated there very clearly

    mlynn

    10 February, 2010 at 10:08 PM

  537. happy lunar new year

    kong

    15 February, 2010 at 11:06 AM

  538. hi, we just completed the submission to MHC, and waiting for the Letter of Renounce from MHC.

    I would like to check how to fill up the application form for Singapore passport – Place of Birth:

    What should i fill in for this field?

    Just fill in “Malaysia” for us born in Malaysia? or need to put down the state like “Johor, Malaysia”?

    For child born in Singapore, just fill in “Singapore”, right.

    Thanks

    ttcc

    17 February, 2010 at 10:34 AM

  539. I have a question, my mum had renunciated her Msian citizenship back in Citizenship in 1980s and she is currently a SG citizen after married to my dad. Unfortunately, she’d lost e Certificate of Renunciation (Borang K).

    She need obtain another copy of the cert and so we contacted High Embassy in Singapore, which they in turn, told us to contact JPN @ KL directly. So I contacted JPN Malaysia and she informed that we have to go down to the HQ @ Putrajaya directly to obtain a copy of Form K. But the officer on the line was unsure what are the documents required in order to obtain a new copy of Certificate of Renunciation.

    Right now the only Msia documents my mum has now is a copy of her birth cert and Employee Provident Fund Certificate and photocopy of her old Msian IC.

    I am wondering if anyone here have any idea what other documents and procedures are needed before we make a necessary trip to KL to obtain a copy of Certificate of Renunciation (Borang K).

    Anonymous

    17 February, 2010 at 4:41 PM

  540. I have a question, my mum had renunciated her Msian citizenship back in Citizenship in 1980s and she is currently a SG citizen after married to my dad. Unfortunately, she’d lost e Certificate of Renunciation (Borang K).

    She need obtain another copy of the cert and so we contacted High Embassy in Singapore, which they in turn, told us to contact JPN @ KL directly. So I contacted JPN Malaysia and she informed that we have to go down to the HQ @ Putrajaya directly to obtain a copy of Form K. But the officer on the line was unsure what are the documents required in order to obtain a new copy of Certificate of Renunciation.

    Right now the only Msia documents my mum has now is a copy of her birth cert and Employee Provident Fund Certificate and photocopy of her old Msian IC.

    I am wondering if anyone here have any idea what other documents and procedures are needed before we make a necessary trip to KL to obtain a copy of Certificate of Renunciation (Borang K).

    Nigel

    17 February, 2010 at 4:42 PM

  541. hi, we just completed the submission to MHC, and waiting for the Letter of Renounce from MHC.

    I would like to check how to fill up the application form for Singapore passport – Place of Birth:

    What should i fill in for this field?

    Just fill in “Malaysia” for us born in Malaysia? or need to put down the state like “Johor, Malaysia”?

    For child born in Singapore, just fill in “Singapore”, right.

    Thanks

    ttcc

    19 February, 2010 at 9:07 AM

  542. Hi TTCC,

    If you’re unsure, it doesn’t harm to write more. It’s not like they are going to penalize you or anything.

    Beluga

    19 February, 2010 at 9:37 AM

  543. hi,

    is it possible to get the form online instead ?

    Jess

    21 February, 2010 at 6:49 PM

  544. hi,

    is it possible to get the form online instead ?

    Jess

    21 February, 2010 at 6:49 PM

  545. Hi Jess,

    You mean the renunciation form? There’s no point because the important part is to have the date stamp that indicates when you can submit the form and the immigration stamp to prove that this form is authentic.

    Beluga

    22 February, 2010 at 11:35 AM

  546. Hi,

    If I can’t find 1 of my expired restricted passport izzit ok?

    cnxeon

    22 February, 2010 at 11:36 AM

  547. Hi cnxeon,

    So far, my experience is it’s OK. I lost my restricted passport and I didn’t produce and Police report. However, they can be kuai lan if they want to…

    Beluga....

    22 February, 2010 at 11:44 AM

  548. Hi Beluga,

    So if they kuai lan, means i cannot submit 2moro, and where should i made a police report? in JB? just to tell them I lost my restricted passport.

    Then I have to wait for another 6mth to submit?

    Thanks.

    Lim Fei Liong

    22 February, 2010 at 12:13 PM

  549. Hi Beluga,

    So if they kuai lan, means i cannot submit 2moro, and where should i made a police report? in JB? just to tell them I lost my restricted passport.

    Then I have to wait for another 6mth to submit?

    Thanks.

    Lim Fei Liong

    22 February, 2010 at 12:13 PM

  550. Hi Beluga,

    So if they kuai lan, means i cannot submit 2moro, and where should i made a police report? in JB? just to tell them I lost my restricted passport.

    Then I have to wait for another 6mth to submit?

    Thanks.

    Lim Fei Liong

    22 February, 2010 at 12:14 PM

  551. Hi Beluga,

    Thanks.

    So, if they kuai lan how should I go about?

    If they ask to wait another 6 month to submit, I siaw liaw lor.

    Lim Fei Liong

    22 February, 2010 at 12:17 PM

  552. Sorry…press submit too many time due to internet slow connection

    cnxeon

    22 February, 2010 at 12:20 PM

  553. Just go to Singapore’s neighbour police and report loss lor… You can get the report instantly.

    Beluga

    22 February, 2010 at 2:52 PM

  554. OK.. Thank you…Hope everything will go smoothly 2moro…

    cnxeon

    22 February, 2010 at 4:19 PM

  555. I and my 3 yr old child citizenship applications were approved in Dec 09. Last week I had booked the appointment in MHC for my submission. I would like to know do I need to surrender my child valid passport? Can I proceed to apply for Singapore passport for my child first or do I have to wait and do it together with me which will be many months later.

    Wilfred

    23 February, 2010 at 1:06 PM

  556. Hi Wilfred,

    Children below 21 will not be able to renounce their citizenship. Thus, surrendering your children’s passport is not necessary. After your child obtained the SG citizenship, he can have 2 passports until he reach 21 years old, in which he has to choose which side to go. You and your child definitely have to wait until you complete the renunciation process on the MY side before you can apply for SG passport. SG passport can only be obtained after you have done your oath of allegiance.

    Beluga

    23 February, 2010 at 2:59 PM

  557. hi booking an oppointment must i bring any doucment thank u

    roy aw

    25 February, 2010 at 5:28 PM

  558. hi booking an oppointment must i bring any doucment thank u

    roy aw

    25 February, 2010 at 5:28 PM

  559. booking appointment must bring any docment

    roy aw

    25 February, 2010 at 5:31 PM

  560. Row Aw,

    Yes you need to bring your approval of Singapore citizenship letter to MHC in order to book your renunciation appointment date

    mlynn

    26 February, 2010 at 10:42 PM

  561. Hi,

    Anybody have the email address for ICA and Hicom M’sia? I have tried to call the hotline(63916314) for ICA but nobody answering the call.

    I have make my renunciation on Jan 2008 but till now I have not yet receive the Cert of Renunciation.

    Thanks

    Mei

    2 March, 2010 at 3:09 PM

  562. Hi,

    Anybody hv the email address for ICA and MHC?

    I hv make my renunciation on Jan 2008 but till now still not receive the Cert..a bit worry

    Mei

    2 March, 2010 at 3:11 PM

  563. Hi,

    Anybody hv the email address for ICA and MHC?

    I hv make my renunciation on Jan 2008 but till now still not receive the Cert..a bit worry

    Mei

    2 March, 2010 at 3:11 PM

  564. Hi,

    I will be submitting my Form K to MHC next week aft waiting for more than 6months. Now I am trying to fill up the forms and get ready the relevant documents. I got below doubts while filling up, can anyone help? Thanks!

    1)As my mum is singaporean, do I need to submit the original copy of her birth cert to MCH? As I saw on the 2nd page of the form K (documents to return to MCH), it asked for mother’s birth cert number. Pls advise. Thanks!

    2) What is Father’s Citizenship number? It is Malaysia IC number? Pls advise. Thanks!

    3) As I got couple of old passports to surrender to MCH, do I really need to fill in all the passport numbers in Form K? If yes, but there’s only a blank for each international and restricted passport. Pls advise. Thanks!

    4) What is Malaysian Citizenship cert? Do we have it?

    Pls help to clear my doubts above! Thank you very much!!

    Sherene

    5 March, 2010 at 12:50 AM

  565. Hi Sherene,

    2, 4) Malaysians born before 1957 should have a citizenship cert. My father has it.

    Beluga

    5 March, 2010 at 10:26 AM

  566. Serene,

    If u are 22 years old and above, u dont need to submit your parents docs (i/c, passport, citizen certs etc)

    I did my borang K submission at MCH recently. Whatever info I didnt hv, i just left the space blank and it was accepted by MCH

    You can fill up the borang K with as much info and as accurate as you can. For those details which you are unsure, you can ask them when you go to MCH on your appointment date. The people at MCH will help you out. I asked them alot of questions and I was given the answers and help by MCH. So do not be afraid to ask.

    Good luck

    Mlynn

    5 March, 2010 at 4:25 PM

  567. Hi Beluga, Mlynn,

    Thanks for ur advices!

    Ok, so mean eventhough my mum is Singaporean, I also dont need to submit her birth cert to MCH right cos I above 22.

    I asked my dad, he said he dont have any Citizenship number leh… maybe I just leave it blank.

    Oya, can I get a MHC endorsed copy of my birth cert on that day I submit my borang K? As I need to use it to prove the relationship for my dad long tern visit pass.

    Thank you very much!

    Sherene

    5 March, 2010 at 9:44 PM

  568. Serene,

    you can get a certified true copy of your birthcert from MCH but only 7 working days after you submit your borang K.

    Mlynn

    5 March, 2010 at 10:08 PM

  569. Hello all,

    I got a letter from ICA on 25th Feb 2010. I called up the Mal high com in Sg and some woman over the phone was just very rude and not helpful and did not tell me clearly that appointment making can only be made in the morning 8am to 11am, and i made a wasted trip down at 3.20pm only to be told by the security guards that they had closed, no need to go alr, only in the morning. And the wman said just bring the letter only. And whole lot of attitude and reluctance to talk.

    ok enough complaints, the letter states that I’m a minor Sg citizen by birth or descent! Didnt know i was a minor oh GOD. I was born in Sg but i guess my parents havent obtained their citizenship when i was born when they had been here for more than 30 years.

    So, can i double check with all here that for the first trip down, what do i have to bring? I dont have any malaysia passports or any malaysia documents!, how about my parents’ documents? your replies

    And my passport (Sg, i only have this passport) is expiring in August this year, from what i have read it seems that i will not be able to go down to ICA to do the oath taking to pledge my loyalty to Sg by that time, so what will happen if i renew my passport before i renounce my msia citizenship? Do i need to spend and make another passport after this whole thing is done? OH MY!!!!!!!!!!!

    I hope someone can help me here! thank you lots!!!!!!!!!

    Kelly

    6 March, 2010 at 11:12 PM

  570. Hi all. Thank you for all the information everyone has posted here. True blue community spirit.

    I have a few questions for Beluga, hope you are tuned in. It concerns mostly what you have posted previously. Here goes :

    1) This refers to the collection of the stack of documents (proof of renunciation document NOT the final renunciation certificate) from MHC after the 7 to 10 working days, can I collect those documents on behalf of my wife and schooling kids or do they have to tag along?

    2) Does the ICA retain the proof of renunciation document mentioned in my Question 1 above during the Oath-taking at ICA?

    3) In your posting on how to withdraw EPF monies after obtaining SG passport, you mentioned “bring along original and photostated borang K acknowledgement slip etc.”. Can I just confirm with you that this borang K acknowledgement slip refers to the proof of renunciation document in my Q1 above?

    4) Ignorant, I am. For the life of me, I can’t figure out what is this “NEE” mentioned and the ticket stub that I have to produce to ICA at the point of citizenship registration. I checked the list of required documents for registration of SG citizenship but I can’t find anything on NEE. Please enlighten me.

    5) You mentioned that you had your Malaysian documents copied in colour, certified true copy and laminated before you surrendered the originals to MHC. What a brilliant move. Would you care to share with us whom you got hold of to certify true copy?

    Hopefully my list of questions and your answers will provide some help to future searching souls. Thanks in advance, Beluga.

    exander

    15 March, 2010 at 6:11 PM

  571. Hi Exander,

    Hope these help.

    1) You collect those documents on behalf of you rwhole family.

    2) No worries as MHC will give us 2 copies, one for us to keep while another one will be submitted to ICA, anyway ICA will photocopy the document and give us back the one we submitted.

    4) NEE (National Education Experience) is an education tour for us to know more on Singapore history, visit one of nearby CC cum light buffet and follow by visit The Singapore Parliament, it will take about 3~4 hours and at the end of the tour they will give us a ticket stub as a prove that we have attended NEE, you will have show this ticket stub before taking the oath.

    As for question 3 and 5, I will leave these to Beluga. Anyway I only scanned all my Malaysian documents without certified them. :(

    Anonymous

    15 March, 2010 at 10:58 PM

  572. Just checking, is this person’s info still valid?

    WTLEE SERVICES

    Blk 77, #01-499, Indus Road, Singapore 161077

    Call Louis Lee, HP: 97933633

    Nicholas

    16 March, 2010 at 12:20 AM

  573. Hi Nicholas,

    Give them a call to check. :}

    small

    16 March, 2010 at 5:39 AM

  574. Nicholas,

    WT LEE services is still operating from the same address and contact.

    Exander

    Question 5.

    I had my msian birthcert and i/c certified true copy by a notary public in Singapore

    mlynn

    16 March, 2010 at 11:05 PM

  575. Hi Anonymous, mlynn

    Wow. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions and sharing your experiences. Really appreciate that.

    Now I just have to wait patiently for Beluga to answer my Question 3. Over to you, Beluga.

    exander

    17 March, 2010 at 9:15 AM

  576. Hi Exander,

    Sorry for my late reply… Yes, bring along a photostated copy of the stack of documents you received from MHC 7 days after you received the slip. What EPF guys want to see is just a concrete proof that you have renounced your citizenship. I suspect that the slip is also good enough but then the document you received after the slip is much clearer. A photostated copy is good enough as the original copy will be taken by the ICA on the day to take your oath.

    Basically, always make a copy for whatever documents you received from both MY and SG side for reference, especially your birth cert which not only you must make a copy, you must also certify true copy. Without an authenticated birth cert, there’s no other document that can prove any relationship with your parents.

    Anonymous

    17 March, 2010 at 4:27 PM

  577. Hi Exander,

    Sorry, the previous comment was posted by me….

    Anyway, as I read from other recent posting, yes, now I recall that there was 2 copy of the renunciation document received from MHC. One copy will be kept by ICA and you will keep another copy. So for the EPF, just photostate another copy and bring along the original just in case they want to see the original copy and also want to take a copy of it. I can’t remember if they took a copy from us or not.

    As for the NEE, I remember, on the day we went, there will be a ticket stub which they told us that we must keep it for the next citizenship process but I can’t remember how exactly the stub was used.

    As for the WT Lee service, I sincerely feel it’s not needed unless you can’t read Malay. You can go to the MHC’s renunciation processing department to take a look at how the forms are filled. Moreover, if the Borang K form you received are photostated, you will have to fill up the original forms again on the submission day.

    Beluga

    17 March, 2010 at 4:39 PM

  578. Lol, always forgot to write name before posting, the anonymous before Nicholas’s post was me.

    It is compulsory to show the NEE ticket stub to lawyer before taking the oath. Without the stub, I think they will not allow you to take the oath. :(

    small

    17 March, 2010 at 8:25 PM

  579. Hi Beluga,small

    Thank you for clearing the air about the anonymous postings, so that I can thank you properly for your information. Really appreciate your help.

    exander

    19 March, 2010 at 11:53 AM

  580. Hi All

    Just a few question before going for my appointment with the MHC on Wednesday.

    1. What if i do not have the malaysia ic (MyKad, i think),do i still need to produce my parents I/C? By the way i’m 26 this year.

    2. What is Singapore Citizenship Certificate? Is it the yellow laminated Entry Permit? And what if i do not have it?

    3. Will the MHC collect back my original birth certificate? If yes, what should i do to retain it, in case for future use.

    4. How much i will be paying on the day of submission? In Sing Dollar or Ringgit?

    cheesy turkey

    21 March, 2010 at 11:43 PM

  581. Hi All

    Just a few question before going for my appointment with the MHC on Wednesday.

    1. What if i do not have the malaysia ic (MyKad, i think),do i still need to produce my parents I/C? By the way i’m 26 this year.

    2. What is Singapore Citizenship Certificate? Is it the yellow laminated Entry Permit? And what if i do not have it?

    3. Will the MHC collect back my original birth certificate? If yes, what should i do to retain it, in case for future use.

    4. How much i will be paying on the day of submission? In Sing Dollar or Ringgit?

    Thank you for the help.

    cheesy turkey

    21 March, 2010 at 11:44 PM

  582. Hi cheesy turkey,

    Please read through this webpage, most of useful infos that you needed were up there. 

    For question 1, I have no idea how come you are 26 years old now and yet did not holding MyKad IC, can you please elaborate more on this?

    Q2) Singapore Citizenship Certificate is a certificate given to you after GRC ceremony for new citizenship, it will be used to prove you are Singaporean. The yellow laminated Entry Permit you mentioned was showing you are PR.

    Q3) If you are referring Malaysian birth cert, the answers is yes. You will need to laminate your Malaysian birth cert and MHC will retain it for processing your application, no warry as they will give you back true certified copy for your future used ( which means that will 2~3 years)

    Q4) Everything done in Singapore will be in Singapore currency, last year the charge was $11.

    small

    22 March, 2010 at 8:04 AM

  583. Hi Small,

    He is probably 2nd generation SG citizen who wants to give up MY citizenship and never bothered to get his MY IC…. However, If that is the case, I’m puzzled as to why he could still hold on to 2 citizenship until 26 years old….

    Beluga

    22 March, 2010 at 12:29 PM

  584. Hi Small,

    Regarding the MyKad, as i was here in Singapore since the 3rd day i was born, all i was given was only my birth certificate. My whole family was Singaporean except me due to my early born in Malaysia. So as to say, I’m the only blue card in my family. When i turn the age 12, I recieved a mail asking me to register for my IC (the small laminated card before MyKad). So all i have now is the laminated IC and my birth cert. When i try to apply for MyKad previously, they say theres no need for me to do so as I’m going to serve my NS in Singapore. That is why i do not have MyKad.

    Cheesy Turkey

    22 March, 2010 at 1:17 PM

  585. I’m puzzled too on how you still able to hold 2 citizenship until 26 years old. By right, you have to do the renunciation after 21st and before 22 years old.

    Assumed your parents are Singaporean when you born, I really don’t understanding why you became Malaysian, may be you are eldest in your family and your parents are still Malaysian when you born, are you? If the answer is ‘Yes’ for my question, then mostly likely your parents did not renounce yours in their Singapore Citizenship application, anyway please check this with your parents first, they are clearer than anyone of us.

    Did you receive any letter from ICA when you reached 21 years old? The ICA letter is to inform you to renounce your Malaysian Citizenship at MHC after 21st and before 22 years old. Seriously, by failing to do so you might have difficulty to obtain your Singapore Citizenship. For furhter details, I will suggest go down to ICA to check..

    Good luck and all the best to you.

    small

    22 March, 2010 at 3:43 PM

  586. Hi Small,

    I’m not holding to two citizenship but Malaysia citizen and Singapore PR. And ICA said i had to serve my NS before i can obtain my citizenship in Singapore which i had ask back in the 90s…

    As for why I’m the only blue card, is like what i had said, I was an early born 8 weeks in advance when my parents visited Malaysia. So when i came back in Singapore KK hospital, they can’t issue me a birth cert as i’m not delivered in KK. When in the later stage, ICA need me to serve NS before giving me a citizenship.

    Anyway, I had already gotten my approval of citizenship of Singapore and all i had to do now is to renounce my malaysia citizenship.

    Thank for all the advice anyway.

    Vheesy Turkey

    22 March, 2010 at 4:04 PM

  587. Hi,

    Just drop in to share… I just completed taking oath in ICA, now waiting for my Borang K to arrive and complete the whole citizenship process.

    1)For NEE, only when your approval letter states that you need to take then you will need to go NEE before oath taking, if not dont need.

    2)When on the day taking oath, pls really dress smart. If not, I saw a few ppl kana send back to redress before allow to take oath. Lucky, I not one of them. Phew!

    3)For the photos using for IC and passport, if can go take at the photo taking shop in ICA, as I saw a lady who took outside was ask to retake again, something like the photos not clear enough.

    Lastly, the officers in both MHC and ICA are helpful enough with all your questions. So dont worry! Just ask them!

    4)

    Doraemon

    24 March, 2010 at 10:35 PM

  588. Hi Doraemon….

    Thanks for sharing…. Yes! That’s what I’ve been telling all the people here… Those guys in MHC are helpful provided that you are patient and friendly to them.

    Talking about photos, yes, I kena also. Not because the photo was not clear enough but because my spectacle’s lens is those that will darken when there are UV light. So when I took the photo, the lens have not fully brighten. For ladies with long hair, make sure that your ears are not covered by your hair. Like Doraemon mentioned, it’s best to take at ICA as they will tell you all these things plus the price is reasonable. Some studios outside charge exorbitant price….

    As for the oath, yea it’s not to be taken lightly. Doraemon, did you receive a pamphlet asking you to donate your organ after the oath? We did… Hehehe… Funny place to receive such things….

    Beluga

    25 March, 2010 at 10:15 AM

  589. Hi Doraemon,

    Just wondering do you need to wait after 7 working days (ie after collecting the official letter from MHC that stated you have returned M’sian passport and IC) before proceed to ICA taking the oath? Or we can go immediately after we return M’sian passport and IC without waiting for 7 working days?

    Anonymous

    25 March, 2010 at 1:45 PM

  590. You can do your oath without needing to wait for 7 days but then, you will need to spend another trip going to ICA because ICA will want you to hand over a copy of the document you received from MHC after 7 days. In other words, by waiting for another 7 days and then do your oath will safe you one trip to ICA because by then you already have the documents you received from MHC.

    Beluga

    25 March, 2010 at 3:14 PM

  591. Hi Anonymous,

    No, now ICA do not accept the temp slip that you got aft submitted your passports. ICA want the official memo that you will be getting only aft 7 working days aft submitted your passports/birthcert etc. So dont waste trip to ICA, wait until you get the official memo aft 7 working days.

    Hi Buluga,

    Yes, I did get the pamphlet asking to donate organ aft the oath… mmmmm…. ya lor… in a happy occasion yet receive the pamphlet… hee hee hee… I din even flip open to see until now…

    Doraemon

    25 March, 2010 at 4:21 PM

  592. Oh, that’s news to me…. So Florence and a few of them was the lucky ones who managed to do the oath without needing to wait for 7 days…

    Beluga

    25 March, 2010 at 4:37 PM

  593. Hi Doraemon ,

    Congratulations~~~

    Anyway we all have to wait for another 2~3 years to get the official Borang ‘K”, sigh!!

    My friend’s daughter go over to JB to do the renunciation thingy on Dec-2009 and received the official Borang ‘K’ before the Chinese New Year, which was much much faster than us….

    small

    25 March, 2010 at 9:37 PM

  594. Hi Doraemon,

    Thank you for the waiting time of 7 working days information. Otherwise I would have made a wasteful trip to ICA.

    Could I know when we submit our current and old M’sia passport to MHC, which are the pages we need to photocopy?

    How about our birth cert? What size of the limination should be? Same our our original birth cert size?

    Thank in advance.

    Anonymous

    26 March, 2010 at 8:35 AM

  595. Hi Anonymous,

    I did photocopied the page with our details and the other page that stated our previous passport number, only need to photcopy the current passport will do cos I dont think they collect from me, but anyway you just photocopy in case they ask for it. The old passports, MHC only collect them but you dont need to fill into the form that they given you. The form only fill the latest and current holding.

    Just laminate same size as your birth cert will do.

    Doraemon

    26 March, 2010 at 10:44 AM

  596. Thank you very much, Doraemon.

    Anonymous

    26 March, 2010 at 12:50 PM

  597. Hi,

    Can I go to Wisma to renounce my Malaysian Citizenship if I do not have a Malaysia passport? I only have Singapore passport and Pink IC. As far as I’m concerned, I do not possess any Malaysian documents. My parents were PR at the time of my birth. So I am a minor Singapore Citizen by descent/registration and also a Malaysia Citizen, according to ICA. I do not want to go to MHC because I’d have to wait for 5 months! Please advise, anyone? Thanks in advance!

    bluee

    6 April, 2010 at 11:41 AM

  598. I received the approval letter from ICA in Dec 09 but till now I did not receive any notice to inform me to attend the NEE. When would I receive the notice?

    Wilfred

    16 April, 2010 at 10:54 AM

  599. Hi Wilfred,

    If the approval did not state anything abt NEE, then u do not need to attend NEE.

    Doraemon

    16 April, 2010 at 4:12 PM

  600. Hi Doraemon,

    Just wanna to check with you how long you need to wait for your S’pore passport after taking the oath? 3 working days after taking the oath and passport application submission?

    I will have my MHC appointment soon and need to have S’pore passport to travel asap.

    Thank you.

    Anonymous

    19 April, 2010 at 8:31 AM

  601. Hi there,

    Yes, after dropping the passport application form into the passport dropbox, it will take 3 working days to complete. They will send you a letter to inform you to pick up but I didn’t wait and after 3 working days, I just went straight to ICA to check if it’s ready for pickup and indeed it was ready.

    Beluga

    19 April, 2010 at 12:25 PM

  602. Hi,

    Need your expertise to clear my doubts on SG Passport Application Form for my children. Based on below, which one should I select since minor can have dual citizenship till age 21?

    (c) I/The child* have/have not/has/has not* acquired the citizenship of another country.

    Thanks in advance.

    Confuse

    28 April, 2010 at 6:39 PM

  603. I think it is “has not acquired” because citizenship by birth is not considered as acquired. Acquired means you actively applied for it and base on certain merit, you were granted the citizenship and thus acquired it.

    Beluga

    29 April, 2010 at 11:15 AM

  604. Is it a need for people between 21 and 22 years old to have both the photocopies of the citizenship cert and the birth cert ? or either one of the documents will suffice ?

    Please email me cool_dude_1988@hotmail.com for the reply.

    My appointment is next week.

    Thanks.

    Tommy

    2 May, 2010 at 3:51 PM

  605. Do my son have to come with me to the MHC to the appointment? He is not free that day and I am wondering if he don’t need to come?

    Thanks :)

    doodeedaadoo

    5 May, 2010 at 10:21 PM

  606. Yes it’s needed as I remember the finger print was needed….

    Beluga

    6 May, 2010 at 1:52 PM

  607. wow…now the appointment date is getting much shorter. Today, I overheard one was given 17th-May and the other one is 30th-May. Hmmmm…..looks like no need to wait for months as compare with us…. :-(

    Hmmm

    7 May, 2010 at 5:33 PM

  608. Hmmmm,

    O… really! Now dont need to wait for months like us liao? That’s good!

    Mmmmm…. or the May appointment dates that u heard are in year 2011? :P

    Doraemon

    9 May, 2010 at 12:39 PM

  609. Hi, I tried to dial the number 97933133 for Louis to get my renunciation form type written etc. But it says that number is not in use. Is the person still providing this service. Does anyone know his opening hours or where he is located? Thanks in advance.

    Jenny

    10 May, 2010 at 8:25 AM

  610. Sorry, please ignore my question above. I have managed to contact him.

    Jenny

    10 May, 2010 at 11:10 AM

  611. I have just submitted all the document at MHC today.

    Yes, indeed the waiting time for the new appointment is very fast, 26 May 2010 for those people who come to make appt today.

    The collection of the stack of document after submission is 3 working days. No longer 7 – 10 working days.

    Anyone can advise me how long you need to spend at ICA for taking the oath, making IC and passport? Can all be done in half a day (8am – 12pm)?

    Thank you.

    Pooh

    10 May, 2010 at 11:11 AM

  612. Wow, that is good news, I went in January this year and had to wait till end May for the appointment date :( but at least I don’t have to wait so long to collect the documents to go ICA, keeping my fingerscrossed that everything will go well :)

    Jenny

    10 May, 2010 at 11:17 AM

  613. Hi Pooh, I’m going to MHC tomorrow to make my appointment. Do you think I’ll have the same luck as you? BTW for making appointment with MHC, we only need to bring the approval letter from ICA?

    KC

    10 May, 2010 at 12:32 PM

  614. KC, I am not obtaining the appointment date at MHC but returning my passport and IC to them. As for me I have been waited for nearly 6 months for the appointment.

    Good luck to you tomorrow.

    Anyone can advise me how long you need to spend at ICA for taking the oath, making IC and passport? Can all be done in half a day (8am – 12pm)?

    Pooh

    10 May, 2010 at 1:10 PM

  615. Hi,

    I would like to ask whether entry permit consider as Singapore citizenship certificate? Because the instruction state that singapore citizensip certificate, singapore restricted & international passports are required for the appointment.

    It is for submission of Form K.

    Thanks in advance!:)

    SF

    12 May, 2010 at 4:11 PM

  616. Hi SF,

    Singapore citizenship certificate is not same as SPR Entry Permit.

    Pooh

    12 May, 2010 at 4:48 PM

  617. Hi Pooh,

    I don’t have any Singapore Citizenshup certificate in that case. How?

    Thanks again!:)

    SF

    12 May, 2010 at 5:15 PM

  618. Hi SF,

    Are you 2nd generation SPR? Do you currently hold S’pore passport?

    If you are not (ie. 1st generation PR), then you won’t have such document. You are not required to submit those 2 document to MHC when you renounce your m’sian citizenship.

    Pooh

    12 May, 2010 at 5:30 PM

  619. What you mean by 1st generation? I don’t have Singapore Passport, we only have Malaysia international passport. Thanks(:

    SF

    12 May, 2010 at 6:15 PM

  620. Hi SF,

    1st generation PR means your parents are not holding SPR. You are the 1st generation of SPR in your family.

    You are not required to submit Singapore Citizenship certificate or S’pore passport since you don’t have them yet.

    You only need to return your birth cert, current and all expired M’sian passport and M’sian IC to MHC when you renounce yr M’sian citizenship.

    Hope it is clear to you.

    Anonymous

    12 May, 2010 at 6:27 PM

  621. Yes, I’m clear now. Thanks a lot!

    SF

    12 May, 2010 at 7:25 PM

  622. Hi , I have renouce my malaysian citizenship , and want to sell my property how do i go about it

    shanti

    13 May, 2010 at 5:36 AM

  623. Hi,

    Anyone can advise how many copies of proof of renunciation letter you received from MHC? As per previous post, Beluga & Anonymous mentioned 2 copies. But, I only received 1 copy today.

    Thanks in advance.

    John

    13 May, 2010 at 9:51 PM

  624. Hi Pooh,

    Sorry for late reply.

    Yes, should not be a problem, all be done in half a day.

    small

    13 May, 2010 at 9:53 PM

  625. Hi Pooh,

    Sorry for late reply.

    Yes, should not be a problem, all can be done in half a day.

    small

    13 May, 2010 at 9:54 PM

  626. HI John,

    For my case, it was 2 copies. One for ourself and another copy need to be submitted to ICA, ICA photocopied the letter and return that copy to us as well.

    Anyway I scanned a colour copy in my PC. :)

    small

    13 May, 2010 at 10:00 PM

  627. Hi Small,

    Thanks for reply. For my case, only 1 copy. If ICA retains it, then I will have problem for my EPF withdrawal. :( Any advise?

    John

    13 May, 2010 at 10:41 PM

  628. Hi John,

    Just tell the ICA officer that you will need the letter to withdraw your EPF in Malaysia. I think they will photocopy the letter and return the original to you.

    If you do not have a scanner at home, I will suggest you go to make a copy for your own record.

    small

    13 May, 2010 at 11:01 PM

  629. Hi Small,

    I’ve scanned and make photocopy of it. Thanks for the advice. I also called up MHC today to confirm and indeed, only 1 copy will be given (not like yours 2 copies).

    MHC also mentioned that I only can withdraw EPF after receiving Form K which is after 2 years. Is that true? I think you and Beluga went to withdraw EPF after obtaining SG Passport, right?

    Thanks.

    John

    14 May, 2010 at 10:26 AM

  630. Hi Pooh,

    Have you gotten your proof of renunciation letter from MHC? If yes, how many copies?

    Thanks.

    John

    14 May, 2010 at 10:29 AM

  631. Not true… I have withdrawn my EPF. I got my SG citizenship august last year.

    Beluga

    14 May, 2010 at 5:25 PM

  632. Hi Beluga,

    Long time no ‘see’. :)

    Hi John,

    I do not any EPF in Malaysia, anyway MHC and CPF Malaysia are 2 different departments, they might not know each other system very well.I think once you have received your Singapore Citizenship Certificate, you can use that together with your Singapore IC to withdrow your EPF.:)

    small

    15 May, 2010 at 7:46 AM

  633. Hi John,

    I only received 1 copy of the memo from MHC. When you collected yr memo? I collected on 13 May. Are we submitting and collecting on the same day?

    Pooh

    16 May, 2010 at 3:07 PM

  634. Hi Small,

    Thanks for your info. Actually the time spend in ICA for taking oath, making NRIC and passport is < 1 hrs. In fact, after collecting the memo from MHC (can collect as early as after 2pm), we can go to ICA immediately. No need to wait until next day and waste leave.

    Pooh

    16 May, 2010 at 3:19 PM

  635. Hi,

    I want to know how long does the oath takes? As in many hours will it take?

    Hahas:D

    Haha

    16 May, 2010 at 3:23 PM

  636. Hi Small,

    Thanks for your info. Actually the time spend in ICA for taking oath, making NRIC and passport is < 1 hrs. After collecting the Memo from MHC, we can go straight to ICA immediately. No need wait till next day. The Memo from MHC can collect after 2pm.

    Pooh

    16 May, 2010 at 4:52 PM

  637. Not sure why all my post has been truncated. Maybe I used symbol instead of typing ‘less than’.

    ***********************************

    Hi Small,

    Thanks for your info. Actually the time spend in ICA for taking oath, making NRIC and passport is less than 1 hrs. In fact after collecting the renunciation memo from MHC, we can go to ICA on the same day. The Memo can collect from MHC after 2pm. No need to wait till 230pm. No need to waste so many leave.

    MHC only return us 1 stack of document (A letter to prove M’sian citizenship renunciation under process at Putrajaya which take 2 – 3 years, attestation of our Birth Cert and Appendix A (one of the form which we have submitted to MHC during the renunciation).

    Hope this will be useful for anyone planning their schedule.

    Pooh

    17 May, 2010 at 9:23 AM

  638. I completed my citizenship process August last year, so I guess some things have changed… For one, the Renunciation documents received from MHC is now 1 copy instead of 2 copies. I can’t remember if EPF department took our 2nd copy or they just photostated it. You can do a search on what I wrote in the history here.

    To Small,

    Hey, I do visit this site quite often ok. Just keep quiet nia… Heh. Things have changed, so better keep quiet unless I’m sure it’s correct… I do hope the official renunciation cert will come earlier also since the submission date has been shortened so much…

    Anonymous

    17 May, 2010 at 2:28 PM

  639. Sorry, the last posting was done by me… ^^;;;

    Beluga

    17 May, 2010 at 5:37 PM

  640. Hi Beluga,

    Not worries as I knew it was you as you mentioned “I completed my citizenship process August last year,….” :)

    Anyway I think we have to wait for at least 2 years as last yearour waiting time were so long (ranged from 4~6 months for getting the submission date)

    small

    17 May, 2010 at 6:02 PM

  641. Hi,

    Hehes, then will there be many people in the ICA taking the oath, etc? Cos I’m wondering if I can go ICA to do those things and rush back to school for my lesson after that.

    Thanks in advance:D

    Haha

    17 May, 2010 at 7:06 PM

  642. Hi Haha,

    If you book yr ICA appt at 815am, I am sure you can finish citizenship registration, making NRIC and passport in less than 45min. But make sure yr passport size photo is acceptable. If not you need spend time go to re-take again.

    Pooh

    18 May, 2010 at 1:23 PM

  643. Hi,

    Thanks! What if i book around 1.15pm?

    haha

    18 May, 2010 at 4:51 PM

  644. Hi Haha,

    Think u should finish by 2pm if everything is acceptable by the officer.

    Anyway, I have my appt at 815am.

    Mind keep in touch when you have received ‘Form K’ from MHC? I am worry 2 – 3 yrs down the road if not receiving that. Think we are almost the same batch.

    Pooh

    18 May, 2010 at 5:20 PM

  645. Hi,

    Thanks:D Sure! Haha:D

    Haha

    18 May, 2010 at 6:16 PM

  646. It seems like everybody has cleared their doubts about Renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship now. I’ve been visiting this site before the appointment with MHC (last year) tll now, when I’m taking the oath in a few days time. Its pretty cool! Haha:D

    Haha

    22 May, 2010 at 8:54 PM

  647. Hi,

    Would appreciate if someone can advice whether minor will receive “Singapore Citizenship Certificate” after the oath process or minor will have to complete the renunciation process at the age 21 to get the certificate. I was asked to produce “Singapore Citizenship Certificate” for my children during passport collection at ICA last Friday. Confused….

    Thanks in advance.

    Confuse

    24 May, 2010 at 9:48 AM

  648. Hi to those that completed registered as Singaporean this yr,

    My mum told me that GST Offset credit 2010 can start sign up today. So I went to the website to try sign up but it showed that I am not eligible for it. As I currently overseas and would not be back at least a yr or 2, therefore I do not know whether there is any mail send to my house regarding that, anyone can help to advice when can we start sign up for it. We are eligible for it right? Thanks!

    Doraemon

    31 May, 2010 at 5:29 PM

  649. I just tried to sign up but got the same message as yours, “Not eligible”. I didn’t receive any letter from CPFB as stated from the website. Based on the FAQ, we are eligible but……

    John

    1 June, 2010 at 9:42 AM

  650. To new citizens, any new subsidy that is eligible, you will be automatically given. I checked my status and it’s already automatically added. Also, the yearly PUB utility concession was also automatically given. However, baby bonus and PTS tax rebate, you’ll have to manually handle it.

    Beluga

    1 June, 2010 at 2:13 PM

  651. Hi Beluga,

    What is PTS tax rebate? Is the Town Council S&C Charges also auto given?

    Thanks.

    John

    1 June, 2010 at 3:46 PM

  652. Thats the additional annual tax rebate you can add after you’ve become a citizen….

    Beluga

    1 June, 2010 at 3:59 PM

  653. Just receive the GST rebate letter yesterday… Me and wife each get SGD200… Hehehe

    Beluga

    2 June, 2010 at 5:50 PM

  654. Hi Beluga,

    What kind of additional annual tax rebate we can get after we’ve become a citizen?

    small

    2 June, 2010 at 8:53 PM

  655. Hi,

    I called up CPF to check why showed me not eligible to recieve the GST Offset 2010 when can I tried to sign up online for it.

    The CPF officer told me that it may due to ICA haven’t pass the updated list to CPF, therefore the system still showed that we are not eligible. So just wait for the GST letter to ask us to sign up to send to us. As long as we sign up before 31 Dec 2010, we will still recieve the GST Offset credit.

    Doraemon

    3 June, 2010 at 2:00 AM

  656. Hi,

    I received the letter from ICA 31/05/2010, need my whole family to go MHC to make the appointment? or can only go alone?

    Yan

    3 June, 2010 at 12:56 PM

  657. Hi Yan,

    One person will do.

    Just bring the ICA approval letters of your whole family and go to MHC to make the appointment ASAP. :)

    small

    3 June, 2010 at 10:25 PM

  658. Thks small.

    Is my 2 son’s (2+ yrs & 4+ yrs)need to renounce also? is they can hold dual citizenships & hold both s’pore & m’sia passport? if no need, i can just go with my husband,right?

    Yan

    4 June, 2010 at 12:18 PM

  659. Hi Yan,

    It has been a year after my renunciation, lot of things or procedures might changed.

    For my case, my family and I (including my children) had submitted the passports back to MHC, no point to hold 2 passports unless you are planning to let them stay in Malaysia for long time. :)

    Anyway after completed the renunciation and taking oath at ICA, all of you including your children will become a Singaporean. Just that when they reach 21st years old, they will given an option to choose between M and S, if he choose S then he will need to do same thing as what you are doing now.

    small

    6 June, 2010 at 9:04 PM

  660. hi,

    today my husband go MHC to make appointment, but the officer said no need to make any appointment for it & can go directly for renounce. the worse things for me is that ‘form K’ we took from WTLEE Services & ask him to fill in for us most of the info is wrong! we pay him around 100++, & i ask my husband to go his office to make the replacement for us. will update the more again….

    Yan

    8 June, 2010 at 10:17 AM

  661. It seems nowadays not so many M’sian renounce their citizenship already. It might be because less approval from ICA.

    I went MHC on 10May and the appointment waiting time is less than 2 weeks. But I myself waited nearly 6 months for MHC appointment.

    I don’t think we require WTLEE Services. The ‘Form K’ can be filled up easily. If you don’t understand Malay, there is some sample posted on this useful website. Anyway, the lady will check your form again and let you know what to change if you write wrongly during the submission. She is quite okay and not as nasty as other commented. Just be patient and polite to her.

    Pooh

    8 June, 2010 at 1:25 PM

  662. this morning go MHC for renounce w/o make any appointment, not much people & the most of the officer is quite nice & helpful. collection date on next tuesday(15/06/10), thats very fast. My ICA appointment on 16/06/10 morning.

    Yan

    10 June, 2010 at 11:36 AM

  663. hi,

    When attend the renounce appointment is my son’s (2+ yrs) need to attend the appointment? We will want to let him hold dual citizenship til 21years old. Did i need to return my son passport to MHC?

    Thanks.

    NICOLE

    10 June, 2010 at 2:40 PM

  664. Hi Nicole,

    You do not necessarily need to surrender your son’s passport as he’s still legally a MY citizen until 21 years old.

    Beluga

    11 June, 2010 at 5:15 PM

  665. Hi Nicole,

    Your son can still retain the passport. Don’t have to surrender.

    Beluga

    11 June, 2010 at 5:17 PM

  666. Hey,

    I have some questions to check, can anyone help me? I already have appointment with MHC on July 6, would like to confirm below few items :-

    1) Is regarding the form K, may i know what should I fill in for Malaysia Citizen by Operation of LAW/Registration/Naturalization Certificate No…….

    2) I didn’t use type writer to fill in the form, i use pen to write, is this alright? I saw somebody said must type instead of write.

    3) I think i have very very old passport maybe in year 1993 don’t know where already, may i still need to make a police report for this?

    Michelle

    23 June, 2010 at 2:20 PM

  667. Hi Michelle,

    1) Not sure but you can ask the counter on the day of submission. They are friendly people.

    2) Typing is not needed. Just fill them up neatly. If the copy you have is the photostated Borang K, you will still need to fill up everything again on the original form on that day anyway

    3) Looks like just bring whatever you have is OK. I have a lost restricted passport also. I didn’t do a police report.

    Beluga

    24 June, 2010 at 1:47 PM

  668. Hey Beluga,

    Thanks for your advice. In this case i will not go and make a police report for the very old passport. Just go there and try my luck…:)

    Michelle

    24 June, 2010 at 2:27 PM

  669. Hey,

    I have went to M’SIA High Comm this morning before my appointment date., very smooth and whole process take very fast before 9am i am done. Really all officers there are more friend now if i compared the previous time i went for the appoinment date. They are quite patient and helpful now. So don’t worry. Vey good, got improvement!!!

    My collection date on the JUNE 30 but not too sure if i can change my appoiment with ICA from 9 JULY to 30th JUNE afternoon, if can i will be able to get my passport early becuase i need to travel. If anyone know if we went ICA afternoon, can we still make the passport on the same date. Thks!

    Michelle Oh

    25 June, 2010 at 11:40 AM

  670. Hey,

    I have went to M’SIA High Comm this morning before my appointment date., very smooth and whole process take very fast before 9am i am done. Really all officers there are more friend now if i compared the previous time i went for the appoinment date. They are quite patient and helpful now. So don’t worry. Vey good, got improvement!!!

    My collection date on the JUNE 30 but not too sure if i can change my appoiment with ICA from 9 JULY to 30th JUNE afternoon, if can i will be able to get my passport early becuase i need to travel. If anyone know if we went ICA afternoon, can we still make the passport on the same date. Thks!

    Michelle Oh

    25 June, 2010 at 11:40 AM

  671. Just went to MHC for submission of documents today. Do I need to bring my 4 yrs old child along to ICA for the registration of citizenship and application of passport?

    Wilfred

    6 July, 2010 at 3:26 PM

  672. Hi all, I am a newbie here.

    Did I read it correctly that upon collecting Form K, we can submit the form + other documents to MHC anytime without waiting for an appointment date? Used to be 5-6 months wait before one is granted to you.

    Many thanks for your input.

    David

    David

    8 July, 2010 at 8:26 PM

  673. Hi all, I am a newbie here.

    Did I read it correctly that upon collecting Form K, we can submit the form + other documents to MHC anytime without waiting for an appointment date? Used to be 5-6 months wait before one is granted to you.

    Many thanks for your input.

    David

    David

    8 July, 2010 at 8:36 PM

  674. Yes, I went to MHC on 14 July 2010, filled in Form K and submit the Form with documents on the spot in the same morning. The renounciation letter can be collected on 19 Jul.

    Remember to laminate your Birth Cert before coming. Or, like me, had to walk all the way out to the HDB block to do the lamination and wasted a lot of time.

    Alice

    16 July, 2010 at 12:20 PM

  675. Thks Alice. You have been very helpful.

    Has the Form K changed ? Do you have to give a reason (or 2?) for giving up Malaysian citizenship?

    Anonymous

    17 July, 2010 at 11:13 PM

  676. My MHC appointment dated 30/08/2010, I wondering can I submit it earlier? Just go to MHC anytime before the appointment date and submit it, will them accept my submission?

    Please advice

    Adelyn

    26 July, 2010 at 4:11 PM

  677. Oh? I thought nowadays the waiting time to renounce should be very short, even walk-in is possible in some cases shown here. Is there a surge of ppl renouncing or is their efficiency dropped again?

    Beluga

    28 July, 2010 at 3:44 PM

  678. Hi all, 1st of all, spent almost ~1hr yesterday night still 1am today on this blog which really a great help to me to understand the renunciation process and also really worrying me too but…Surprise!…Yes., went to MHC today ard 8.10am without much preparation and surprisingly been given the Form K (+ 2 copy of yellow form) on the spot and been informed that I can submit the form on the same day if I can complete the form. The form is much simplified now without a needs for parents info/details (except for applicant with age 21 or 22 yrs old)and only the latest passports (both restrict and international) are required. => No police report is required for the lost of very old…passport. Done the whole processes within 2 hrs. Thanks all for the great info sharing. Will able to collect the slip on 2 Aug 2010.

    Daniel

    28 July, 2010 at 10:05 PM

  679. Hi Daniel,

    Thanks for sharing the info..

    Glad that it is now simple and straight forward when do the submission of Borang K

    small

    29 July, 2010 at 8:43 PM

  680. wow, thanks to orangeous.org for the fabulous info on renunciation.

    i have a set of noobie qns for the helpful readers here,

    - i’m a minor (i’m currently 21 years old)

    - i’m born in singapore

    - my parents became sg citizens when i was 2 years old

    - i got my singaporean citizenship @ 3 yrs old

    but i have all the required documents (my own and my parents’)

    and my submission date for the forms is 26th aug 2010.

    my questions are:

    - can i submit my forms before my submission date?

    - am i eligible to submit my forms before my submission/appointment date?(cos im 21, need to submit copies of parents documents)

    - will i be given a new set of forms to fill up again?

    - has the forms been changed?

    - and i don’t know a single word of malay >.< (my dad’s at overseas working, mum has cleanly forgotten her malay language)

    - can i just fill in the forms in handwritten format? there isn’t a need for forms to be in typed format right?

    - do i have to look for WTlee services? as i don’t know malay.

    sorry for the lengthy post, i really need help from you helpful people.

    thank you guys so so so so so much in advance, i will greatly appreciate your kind help ^.^

    have a nice weekend ahead~

    DDBoy

    1 August, 2010 at 6:20 AM

  681. hey all, i went to MHC this morning ^.^

    the experience was wonderful, all the officers i approached were really friendly and nice, you just have to be polite to them~

    here’s the procedure:

    1. reached MHC @ 6.50am went to guard post to obtain my visitor pass (remember to mentioned what you’re there for, for my case i told the security guard that im submitting my forms)

    2. head to the other gate after obtaining the pass (remember to clip it on your shirt/top always), if you don’t know where’s the other gate, you may ask the security guard, he’s really friendly.

    3. the gate will open @7.30am, head towards consular office and wait for the office to open @8.15am

    4. consular office opened, queue up, there will be a lady giving instructions, so just listen to the instructions and you won’t do wrong.

    5. queue up to submit your stack of photostatted copies of forms, the officer will check your forms for missing fields, and will guide you on how to fill it up, so don’t worry. and 2 yellow forms (form k) will be given

    6. filled up the missing fields and the 2 yellow forms (the 2 yellow forms are in malay, just like your photostatted copy of form k), i don’t know malay, but i followed the translation given in this website :)

    7. finished filling up all relevant forms (For those who are unsure how to fill up form k, you can see the samples being put up on the wall, really useful, or you may ask the officers, they are really really helpful and nice). queued up to get my thumbprints on my forms, and the officer went through my forms for missing fields.

    8. got my queue number to submit everything including the yellow forms too.

    9. waited for my turn and submitted my forms, the officer thoroughly checked my stack of forms, i gave her my 3 passport photos (any background colour is alright, not necessarily to be in blue, mine is in white), gave her my borang W (my singapore birth cert isn’t retained, the officer told me its not needed), paid SGD 10 for my application fee, obtained a slip/receipt for collection of the renunciation slip, oh and FYI, only my Borang W is retained by them

    i completed everything by 10am

    and collection only takes 3 working days after submission :D

    DDBoy

    3 August, 2010 at 6:52 PM

  682. Hi all,

    Have a quick question regarding the status of Malaysia citizenship. Once you have acquired a citizenship from another country and you have not gone through the renunciation process, are you still consider a Malaysian citizen?

    Thanks in advance for the answer.

    KK

    6 August, 2010 at 1:32 AM

  683. Hi KK,

    Of course technically you are. But, don’t get caught by Msian custom officer. You could be fined or something as it’s a violation. Foreign country may allow you to have other citizenship but Malaysia does not allow you to do so. Both sides must agree to work…

    Beluga

    6 August, 2010 at 10:17 AM

  684. i wanna ask beluga a question, please help me beluga, thanks!:)

    i collected my renunciation slip/letter from MHC today, and immediately went down to ICA building to take my oath.

    I realised i wrote the wrong date after signing on the sheet of paper given to me at ICA when i am about to take my oath (the paper that states the deadline of submission of original Borang K to ICA), i wrote 3rd august instead of 6th august. is it alright, they’ve already approved my oath.

    and stupid question, on the paper my deadline for submitting original borang k is 3rd august 2011 which is one year later, is the deadline for submission determined by the date on the renunciation slip/letter by MHC(which is date whereby we submitted our renunciation forms to MHC), cos the date on the letter/slip given to me by MHC states 3rd august 2010.

    thanks for the great help!!!!!!!

    DDboy

    7 August, 2010 at 2:53 AM

  685. Hmm… I don’t know the answer myself. I guess the date mistake for the oath is fine. After the oath is done, it doesn’t matter anymore anyway. As for the borang K, I’m not too sure what that means. Can check with MHC. I suspect it doesn’t really matter too…

    Beluga

    10 August, 2010 at 2:13 PM

  686. hi, got my SC approved recently and would like to confirm that these days the submission of doc is same day (go and collection forms and submit same day) and collection is 3 days later for the receipt of renunciation ? Am I right ? Many thanks

    Orang Hutan

    17 August, 2010 at 9:34 PM

  687. Orang Utan, I just took my oath and I am waiting to collect my passport. The process is the same as described by DD boys. We did everything within 1 hour.

    One question: When will we get the cerificate of citizenship? How to inform MOE that our children now are SC? Will the children aslo get cert of citizenship as well? Thanks

    Snow

    18 August, 2010 at 9:12 AM

  688. Orang Utan, I just took my oath and I am waiting to collect my passport. The process is the same as described by DD boys. We did everything within 1 hour.

    One question: When will we get the cerificate of citizenship? How to inform MOE that my children now are SC? Will the children aslo get cert of citizenship as well? Thanks

    Snow

    18 August, 2010 at 9:12 AM

  689. http://www.jpn.gov.my/en/Renunciation

    Did my renunciation at MHC this morning. Form filling and submission all done in one hour.

    Collection of the documents from MHC on Monday

    My ICA appointment was made for Wednesday

    Anonymous

    18 August, 2010 at 10:47 AM

  690. You can call ICA to find out the collection of SC Cert. Will be a ceremony to present u with the cert and pink IC

    Did your children do the renunciation ??

    Orang Hutan

    18 August, 2010 at 10:50 AM

  691. The kids were born in Spore. They need to decide themslves when they reach 21 and go back to ICA. They can keep the Msian bith cert until then.

    snow

    18 August, 2010 at 1:48 PM

  692. thanks beluga, ICA was really helpful, they replied to my email more than a week ago, and called me up and said its alright, heh heh, and i didn’t have to go down to countersign, they are able to amend it for me, no biggie :)

    @orang hutan please remember to make a really big reminder when your kids hit the big 21 in future, some parents nearly forget about it as it takes more than a decade for their kids’ turn to take their oath, my parents kept reminding me bout my oath-taking since i was in pri sch, and kept nagging to me till i’m 21, hehe, but i gotta thank them

    now need to wait a year later for official borang k cert to arrive, now ICA gives one year to submit borang k, no longer 2 years, i wonder if its because the process for making borang k has speed up?

    Ddboy

    18 August, 2010 at 2:30 PM

  693. Snow,

    You can use your child’s Singapore Passport as the proof of SC.

    If your child still schooling, you can make a copy and update via the school system and they will help you to inform MOE as well..

    Regarding the cerificate of citizenship ans pink IC, it will be given to you through a GRC ceremony which is about 2~3 months after the oath takinng.

    By the way, I assumed that your children holding s Singapore birth cert, Borong W that they hhold actually is the Cerificate of Malaysian Citizenship.

    small

    19 August, 2010 at 8:41 PM

  694. Hi all,

    As me and whole family currently in USA therefore I dont know whether I received any letters from authority yet. I got my SC Feb 2010, I were told that I am eligible to receive GST credit 2010 but when I log in to sign up online, it showed me that I NOT ELIGIBLE. Does anyone encounter the same problem? Or anyone aft Feb 2010 got their SC and yet show eligible for the GST credit 2010 when sign up for it?

    Kenneth

    24 August, 2010 at 5:43 AM

  695. to recap:

    applied for SC in late March 2010

    approval letter received after less than 2 weeks ago

    went to WTLee one week ago

    submitted form k on same day (no appointment needed)

    collected the original letter of renun on 3rd working day after submission of form k

    doing SC registration one week after submitting the form k

    these days seem quite fast and efficient at mhc, except have to wait for the original form k – it says one year later (true or not ?)

    Orang Hutan

    25 August, 2010 at 12:30 AM

  696. Simi 1 year…. 2 years at least…. :-) Anyway, now that everything has sped up, don’t know if the original cert will also arrive earlier or not.

    Those who already got their certs, kindly post it here,

    1) When completed the renunciation

    2) When received Borang K cert

    beluga

    25 August, 2010 at 3:17 PM

  697. today at ICA they said M’sia has sped up matter and Borang K should be within one year

    temp pink ic done, passport application done

    all within 45 mins

    Majulah Singapura !

    Orang Hutan

    25 August, 2010 at 8:43 PM

  698. Yea, one last free buffet meal for you during the citizenship ceremony…. After that, you’re pretty much Pay and Pay’s slave…. Hehehehe….

    Beluga....

    26 August, 2010 at 12:21 PM

  699. may be, at least we got to pay and pay

    back in bolehland, no chance to pay

    Orang Hutan

    26 August, 2010 at 4:46 PM

  700. Hi all,

    Quick check. Do we still need to bring all of our expired passports upon renounciation at MHC (as per stated in the MCH website)? what if we can’t give them all? Is it best to launch a police report before we renounce at MHC? Hope to hear from all of you soon.

    Memang Boleh

    27 August, 2010 at 11:04 PM

  701. Memang Boleh

    someone did mentioned about those expired pp

    please read back up and u would get the idea

    Anonymous

    29 August, 2010 at 11:15 PM

  702. hi, anyone did the oath taking at ICA in may 2009? is it normal to be waiting for the official renunciation letter from mhc at this point of time? i am a minor who did the oath last year, till now that isnt any news yet. do i need to contact mhc to check on the status? when should i start to ask exactly when the renunciation letter is ready? do mhc mail it to the home address? thank you.

    atlan

    5 September, 2010 at 6:37 PM

  703. hi

    approved of renouncation in Mar 2009.

    Applied and collected sg P/P in March 2009.

    received my form K in Sep 2010.

    Total one and a half year.

    DT

    10 September, 2010 at 11:50 PM

  704. Hi all,

    Anyone here who is being sued by bank/s in M’sia (maybe even already made a bankrupt) who could still get BORANG K?

    1818

    13 September, 2010 at 7:35 PM

  705. Hi all,

    Anyone here who is being sued by bank/s in M’sia (maybe even already made a bankrupt) who could still get BORANG K, meaning, renunciation approved by BolehLand govt.?

    1818

    13 September, 2010 at 7:38 PM

  706. Hi Chris,

    Congratulations on the migration of Orangeous to here …nice layout. :)

    small

    18 September, 2010 at 10:40 PM

  707. Small: Hey! Thank you so much. Wanted a proper place to handle 700+ comments. The old server was really slow. I’ve included sharing features on this blog to facilitate info dissemination. Are you done with your renunciation?

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    19 September, 2010 at 7:22 PM

  708. Chris,

    Still waiting for our official Borong K… :(

    small

    19 September, 2010 at 10:40 PM

  709. Please don’t worry. It’s just the waiting game. You’ll get it soon.

    Please share the good news with us when you receive it. I’m sure you’ll be very happy.

    Now it’s my sister’s turn to do her renunciation and she’s going through the contents of this post.

    Big thanks to you both, small and Beluga, you made this page a real lifesaver for so many others who needed help. Look at how many comments you guys have!

    For the rest who took the initiative to provide assistance and accounts of their experience, thank you so much!

    I will never delete this page!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    19 September, 2010 at 10:49 PM

  710. Hi all,

    Those who already registered as Singapore Citizenship in 2010, you can log in to sign up your 1st GST Offset 2010 from today onwards. And I done it! :P Cheers!

    Doraemon

    23 September, 2010 at 12:50 PM

  711. Thanks Doraemon, I done it.

    April

    24 September, 2010 at 9:26 AM

  712. Thanks Doraemon for sharing!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    24 September, 2010 at 11:42 PM

  713. Thanks Doraemon, I have signed up too :)

    Wilfred Tan

    27 September, 2010 at 11:29 AM

  714. Hi Beluga,

    My wife received the letter from MHC today mentioned her Borang K is ready to be collected but mine still no news. :(

    It take about 16 months for my wife.

    small

    1 October, 2010 at 11:01 PM

  715. Hi Small,

    May I know how long you have been waiting for your Borang K? I submitted mine in last March 2010.

    Can I check with you in the MHC letter that your wife received, did it state that you need to collect the Borang K personally or somebody can collect on behalf? How many months grace period is given to to collect the Borang K before MHC send back to KL?
    And, is it just bring the MHC notification letter you can collect the Borang K?

    I’m asking all these because I currently not in Singapore and will not be back so soon, and therefore thinking if MHC send me the notification letter to collect, can my parents collect it on my behalf with just the notification letter itself.

    Pls help to advise and thank you in advance!

    Doraemon

    3 October, 2010 at 6:04 PM

  716. Hi Doraemon,

    We did the renunciation together which was on May-2009.

    Letter from High Commission of Malaysia in Singapore
    —————————————————–

    Please be informed that your application for Renunciation of Malaysian Citizenship has
    been approved. Kindly come personally at this office at Consular Section between
    2.30 pm to 3.30 pm, Monday to Friday to collect your Form K / Birth Certificate.

    2. Kindly bring along this letter and the following documents (Original and two (2)
    clear photocopies each in A4 size paper):

    i) Singapore Identity Card (To photocopy front and back of document);
    ii) Singapore Passport (Page with photograph of the passport holder);
    iii) Singapore Citizenship Certificate (To photocopy front and back of
    document); and
    iv) Deed Poll / Baptism (if name has been changed), if applicable

    3. Please collect the Form K / Birth Certificate within three months from the date of
    this letter.

    Hope the above helps. :)

    small

    4 October, 2010 at 8:52 PM

  717. Hi Small,

    Thank you very much!

    Doraemon

    4 October, 2010 at 10:00 PM

  718. Hi Doraemon,

    You are welcome.

    Sorry for the alignment of the text,a bit messy as I converted this from PDF format without doing any editing.

    small

    5 October, 2010 at 6:05 AM

  719. Congrats Doraemon…. I’m still waiting for mine and I guess it should be soon as we renounced in July 2009.

    Beluga

    8 October, 2010 at 11:34 AM

  720. Oops… it should be Small that I should congratulate… Not Doraemon… paiseh….. ^^;;;

    Beluga

    12 October, 2010 at 10:25 AM

  721. Hi Beluga,

    Only my wife received the letter, am still waiting for mine…

    Hope that my letter will reach to me within this two months, otherwise have to make multiple trips to MHC as well as ICA for the Borong K thingy.

    small

    12 October, 2010 at 10:44 PM

  722. hi all, a big thank you to all who have contributed excellent info on this site. its really useful!

    I have just went down to MHC this morning. filling the forms really… its easy to fill but too many forms.. think total of 7-8 forms all together.

    i will be collecting the renunciation letter/memo in 3 days time. thats good!

    does that mean I can use the renunciation letter to go to ICA for my citizenship registration and no need to wait for my original BORANG K which i think can be collected 1 years or more later?

    my citizenship registration is on Nov4, can i change the date earlier at ICA? or just walk in anytime?

    Thank you all!

    John.F

    19 October, 2010 at 12:34 PM

  723. Hi John.F,

    ICA will be strictly for appointment only as we will need to take our oath on that day.

    For your case, I will suggest once you got your renunciation slip then go to change the ICA appointment date to the day you prefereed which can be done thru’ eappointment.ica.gov.sg, it will be more safe in this way.

    Hope this helps. :)

    small

    20 October, 2010 at 7:05 AM

  724. hi Small,

    i have tried to change the appointments through ICA e-appointment but it gives me error that i’m not eligible with my application ID.

    hmm…

    John.F

    20 October, 2010 at 12:23 PM

  725. Hi John.F.

    For ICA e-appointment , your Application ID is not your IC number but the one stated at the top of the approval letter. ie. ROC-YYYY-APP-0000xxxxx under “Citizenship Registration” service.

    smalll

    20 October, 2010 at 9:21 PM

  726. Haha…finally received the long waited letter from MHC for collection of my official Borong ‘K’.

    Will have to collect it from MHC within 3 months of the date issued in order to complete the whole renunciation process.

    Start of renunciation process : 07 May 2009

    Oath and complete submission of documents : 17 May 2009

    Collection of Singapore IC though GRC Ceremony: September 2009

    Received of letter from MHC to collect official Borong ‘K’ : October 2010

    End of renunciation process : Most likely will be
    Nov-2010.

    :)

    small

    20 October, 2010 at 11:57 PM

  727. Hi small,

    Tried using the ROC-YYYY-APP-0000xxxxx… still same… not eligible to change appointment.. lol…

    anyway gratz!

    John.F

    21 October, 2010 at 11:24 AM

  728. Hi John.F,

    Why not try your luck to call ICA for changing your appointment?

    Anyway if you are not in hurry, then don’t think there is a need to change as 04th-Nov is just about 2 weeks from now. :)

    small

    21 October, 2010 at 8:25 PM

  729. Hi Small,

    congrats! I guess mine will be about 3 months away???

    Beluga

    22 October, 2010 at 12:41 PM

  730. Hi Beluga,

    Thanks.

    Yea~~think yours will not more than 3 months bah.. :P

    small

    22 October, 2010 at 7:04 PM

  731. collected my MHC letter last fri.. really in 3 workings days can collect the letter.

    Now waiting for 4 Nov for citizenship registration.. :)

    Borang K will need to wait for 1 year from MHC? wah.. thats long!!!

    John.F

    25 October, 2010 at 10:05 AM

  732. I wonder, the application for citizenship is now stricter for Malaysian…. Could anyone comment on this? My PR application for my parents was rejected a couple of months back. Bad timing as they made it tougher. Even those that I know whom previously managed to get PR for their parents got only 1 PR extension when they tried to renew PR for their parents…

    Beluga

    25 October, 2010 at 12:03 PM

  733. My wife and I collected the official Borang ‘K” personally from MHC last Monday afternoon, it took about 10 mins to settle everything, needed to fill up a form to write our name, IC number and signed on it to declare that we have collected our official Borang ‘K” and birth certificate.

    I photocopied both side of Borong ‘K’ and handed to ICA counter at 6th floor on the same day.

    small

    27 October, 2010 at 9:12 PM

  734. hi small, u mean we would need to summit the photocopy of K form to ICA 1 year later to complete the whole process?

    if dun summit then singapore IC and passport will be cancel?

    John.F

    28 October, 2010 at 6:08 PM

  735. HI John F,

    The collection of Form K – Certificate of Renunciation which will take approximately two years from date of renunciation, it may be shorter than 2 years now.

    Anyway you can check this more detail with ICA on 4-Nov, Chris did mention about sunmission of Official Borong K in the beginning of this web page. :)

    small

    28 October, 2010 at 10:37 PM

  736. I benefitted from this forum and would like to update anyone who is reading this forum with the latest. Did a cutandpaste from DDboy’s comment and editted the changes:

    My background:
    9 years in sg (4yrs student pass, 5yrs sg PR), did my tertiary study here and I am 30years old, with my wife who is malaysian, sg PR, I am converting alone, no kid yet
    Time apply for sg citizen:
    Mid July 2010
    Time application approve:
    End Oct 2010

    Below is cutandpaste courtesy of DDboy with some editted changes:

    hey all, i went to MHC this morning (10 nov 2010)^.^

    I drove and parked at “valley point shopping center” (the nearest legal parking area, 10-15mins walking distance to MHC, umbrella incase raining?)

    the experience was wonderful, all the officers i approached were really friendly and nice, you just have to be polite to them~

    here’s the procedure:

    1. reached MHC @ 730am went to guard post to obtain my visitor pass (remember to mentioned what you’re there for, for my case i told the security guard that im submitting my forms, you will need to exchange the visitor pass with some form of ID, sg or my driving license both OK)

    2. head to the other gate after obtaining the pass (remember to clip it on your shirt/top always), if you don’t know where’s the other gate, you may ask the security guard, he’s really friendly. (guard post and “other gate” is about 30secs walk only)

    3. the gate will open @7.30am,(not sure cause i reached at 730am, it was already open) head towards consular office (“consular office”=turn right after the gate, there is a indian lady guard who can tell u where to go) and wait for the office to open @8.15am

    (before i join the q, i went to “Immigration section” which is just beside “consular office” to photocopy my document, photo taking is also available, prepare small changes or coins if you want to do your photo taking or zapping document there, quite crowded in the morning as a lot of ppl doing international passport)

    4. consular office opened, queue up, there will be a lady (indian lady)giving instructions, so just listen to the instructions and you won’t do wrong.

    (tell the indian lady u are here for “renunciation” and she will pass u the form to fill up, total 5 pages, all in english, not difficult to fill, only take some times, malaysia IC place of issue=Putra Jaya and need info like your education background and your employer address)

    (finish all 5 pages, pass back to the same indian lady, she will check, if OK, she will handle u 2 copy of “yellow form”. Fill it up, there will be sample on the wall if u r unsure) (yellow form fill it in in ‘malay’, ie: CINA not CHINESE)

    5. queue up to submit your stack of photostatted copies of forms, the officer will check your forms for missing fields, and will guide you on how to fill it up, so don’t worry. and 2 yellow forms (form k) will be given

    6. filled up the missing fields and the 2 yellow forms (the 2 yellow forms are in malay, just like your photostatted copy of form k), i don’t know malay, but i followed the translation given in this website :)

    7. finished filling up all relevant forms (For those who are unsure how to fill up form k, you can see the samples being put up on the wall, really useful, or you may ask the officers, they are really really helpful and nice). queued up to get my thumbprints on my forms, and the officer went through my forms for missing fields.

    8. got my queue number to submit everything including the yellow forms too.

    9. waited for my turn and submitted my forms, the officer thoroughly checked my stack of forms, i gave her my 2 passport photos (any background colour is alright, not necessarily to be in blue, mine is in white), gave her my borang W paid SGD 10 cash for my application fee, obtained a slip/receipt for collection of the renunciation slip, oh and FYI, only my Borang W is retained by them

    i completed everything by 10am (same)

    and collection only takes 3 working days after submission (collection time only in the afternoon 230pm-330pm):D

    Document Needed:
    MY IC + 2 Copy front back (all will be taken)
    SG IC + 2 Copy front back (copies will be taken)
    “Laminated” MY birth cert + 2 Copy front back (all will be taken)
    Approval Letter from ICA +2 Copy 1st page (copies will be taken)
    Latest MY passport (will be taken)

    Note: No need to photocopy any passport, only need to surrender the ‘latest’ passport, I brought along all my old/new passport with copies, they only need “latest my passport”, dunt even need copies, old passport i took it back. FYI

    shl

    10 November, 2010 at 12:43 PM

  737. Anyone can help me?
    My son (5 years old) and I are SPR. We just received letter for Sg citizenship. Is my son required to renounce his Malaysia citizenship?

    YAP

    12 November, 2010 at 10:52 AM

  738. Hi Yap,

    No one is allowed to renounce a citizenship on behalf of another person. As such, your child will obtain dual citizenship (Msia and Spore) until the age of 21, which he will have to decide which one to choose.

    Beluga

    15 November, 2010 at 6:07 PM

  739. Anyone can tell me the detail contents of the renunciation slip?

    EL

    23 November, 2010 at 2:46 AM

  740. Thanks all for the great info sharing, I surrender my passport/IC on 19th Nov smoothly.
    I agreed with SHL, MHC no longer asking for the expired passport (original or photocopy) (they not even look at it). so the expired passport still with me =)
    I try to change the date earlier at ICA appointment to the 24th Nov (collect the renunciation letter/memo on this date), but ICA been fully book till end Dec, so there is nothing I can do at this moment, I will be continue stateless till my appointment date on 8th Dec..

    Yippee

    23 November, 2010 at 11:32 AM

  741. Hey, I just received the letter from MHC asking me to collect the Borang K cert. So, the estimation is correct…

    So, I guess the kids need not go right? Just me and my wife…

    Beluga

    13 December, 2010 at 1:24 PM

  742. hi beluga, so the estimation collection of original BORANG K is about 1 year?

    John.F

    14 December, 2010 at 3:16 PM

  743. About 15 ~ 16 months…

    Beluga

    15 December, 2010 at 12:59 PM

  744. Hi Beluga,

    Your wife and you only needed to be there to fill up a form to write your name, IC number and signed on it to declare that you have collected your official Borang ‘K” and birth certificate.

    As for ICA side, either one will do for the submission, please photocopy both side of your Borong ‘K’. :)

    Anonymous

    20 December, 2010 at 7:36 PM

  745. Hi Beluga,

    The previous one was posted by me, I forgot to congratulate you and your wife. :)

    small

    20 December, 2010 at 7:45 PM

  746. Thanks Small! That info helps a lot! For the ICA side, I can just walk in at any time right? Need not make any appointment…

    Beluga

    27 December, 2010 at 12:33 PM

  747. Hi Beluga,

    You are absolutely right, cheers !~!

    small

    27 December, 2010 at 10:45 PM

  748. Hey everyone i got something to ask. I currently just turned 21 and got the letter from ICA. so it is stated in the website i need to bring along Borang W.

    Then theres a side note below saying that Original Malaysian original birth certificate must be laminated. so does it include the borang w as well? cause my borang w is not laminated.. Many thanks!

    Passerby

    1 January, 2011 at 9:59 PM

  749. Just popped by the MHC to collect my Borang K. Need to bring along 2 copies of
    1) SG IC (front and back)
    2) SG Citizenship cert (front and back)
    3) SG passport
    4) Deed Poll (If any)
    Went straight to ICA immediately after that. Just need photocopy 1 copy of the collected Borang K and go to Level 6 to submit to them.

    Beluga

    4 January, 2011 at 5:05 PM

  750. any1 has any idea how long the will they send u the letter to attend GRC ceremony to received ur ic + cert? got my citizenship on 4nov 2010 but still haven receive invitation ….

    John.F

    14 January, 2011 at 5:01 PM

  751. IIRC, within 6 months? I don’t remember getting mine that early too…

    Beluga

    15 January, 2011 at 9:19 AM

  752. Hi All,
    I just receive letter from ICA on the approval for my citizenship application. Have a few question to ask
    1. When go to MHC we need to submit list of required document (passport + Ic and etc including original copies). Will MHC take those doc on the spot or only took them when i come back to collect the renouncement letter? (p/s: I need th passport to go back for CNY, my appointment with ICA is 10 Feb 2010)

    2. I also apply citizenship for my 2kids, all under age 3. Do they need to renounce their malaysia citizenship in order to become singaporean? What is the procedure for them?

    Thanks

    Jenny

    15 January, 2011 at 4:36 PM

  753. my suggestion is postpone your ICA appointment date or surrrender you M’sia IC/passport afterou back from your homwtown,
    This is due to.. you need to surrender your M’sia IC, Passport to MHC, you may collect the renouncement letter after 3 working days. You are consider as stateless and passportless once you submit your doc to MHC, and you can only apply the S’pore passport only after your appointment with ICA (which is 10 Feb 2010)

    Anonymous

    15 January, 2011 at 8:48 PM

  754. Hi Jenny,

    As mentioned in this discussion many times, anyone who got their SG citizenship at the age of below 21 will still maintain their Msia citizenship. You have no right to renounce their citizenship on their behalf and they will have to decide at the age of 21 of which to give up.

    Beluga

    18 January, 2011 at 2:09 PM

  755. Hi all,

    Wishes everyone have a FABULOUS Happy Lunar New Year!!

    Any new updates who got the MHC letter to collect Borang K? Thanks!

    Doraemon

    1 February, 2011 at 8:18 PM

  756. Hi All,
    Thanks Chris for starting this website and everyone who had shared their experiences here! This is a fabulous site for info sharing!
    My husband and I received the approval from ICA for our SGP citizenship application submitted in end Nov 2010. We waited only slightly more than 2 months, I think that’s very fast!
    Now, the next step is to handle the process of renunciation of our Malaysian citizenship. Could anyone kindly give us an update of the latest procedures & timeline? Such as:
    (1) Is it likely for us to submit the required forms (Form K?) & documents on the first visit to MHC or an appointment date for submission will be given?
    (2) Can the Form K be downloaded online & fill it up prior to our trip to MHC? If yes, where can we download it?
    (3) What are the required documents to be submitted for the renunciation? Hope someone can share the latest list of required documents for our preparation prior going down to MHC.

    Thanks!

    JAC

    10 February, 2011 at 11:51 AM

  757. Hi All

    ABC

    10 February, 2011 at 12:25 PM

  758. Hi JAC,

    Nope, you can’t do it online because it’s not just for the sake of getting the Borang K when you go there. You still need to book a date to submit the forms.

    I leave the rest for other people to answer as my info is already outdated.

    Beluga

    10 February, 2011 at 4:04 PM

  759. JAC: No worries, enjoy your stay here. The regulars here are really helpful.

    Wishing you all a happy CNY!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    10 February, 2011 at 9:03 PM

  760. Anyone know if the EPF must be claim before the renunciation of after?

    Jacq

    3 March, 2011 at 5:54 PM

  761. Just went there today.

    Background:
    21yrs old, born in SG but Y’sian Citizen & SG PR at birth.
    Parents are both Y’sians and SG PRs.
    SG citizenship process completed during NS.
    Got ICA letter about 1-2 weeks after 21st birthday.

    Docs required for me: (bring original + front-and-back photocopies x2 for all below)
    Borang W (Malaysian Birth Register Cert)(for those born outside Y’sia)
    SG Birth Cert
    Y’sia IC
    SG IC
    Y’sia Restricted Passport (most recent/last used/newest)
    SG Passport (most recent/last used/newest)
    SG Citizenship Cert (the one obtained during ceremony)

    Process:
    - reached at 7.30am by car. (gate is on far side from bus-stop)
    - go to change for visitor pass at main gate guardhouse. (gate for cars to enter)
    - I used my about-to-expire NS ez-link card to swop. (can use any id card with pic i guess)
    - go right to a small gate with a guard around there. (there are pple queueing up for passport renewal at 7.30am)
    - go through the gate and up the slope, and turn right to consular section.
    - chill until about 8am, and the Indian lady will come to start up the office.
    - you should get the forms from her.
    - copy of the forms for download here:
    http://www.kln.gov.my/web/sgp_singapore/other_information/-/asset_publisher/2TQe/content/renunciation-of-malaysian-citizenship-certificate-of-good-conduct-and-registration-of-death?redirect=%2Fweb%2Fsgp_singapore%2Fother_information#RENUNCIATION_OF_MALAYSIAN_CITIZENSHIP
    - basically it’s 3 identical Eng forms, 1 personal details Eng form, and 1 Malay form thats quite easy to fill.
    - at any point in time if in doubt, don’t hesistate to approach the Indian lady for help! (she speaks English, and there’s another Malay guy whom I think helps out a bit too)
    - fill in all forms properly, show her, show her your photocopies, and she will give you 2 copies of Yellow Borang K to fill. (in Malay)
    - there’s help pasted on the board to guide you through the Malay forms; it’s very easy, essentially only to fill in name, address, birthdate, Y’sia IC No., gender, religion, etc. If in doubt, ask/show the Indian lady!
    - after the Yellow Borang K forms are done, she will tell you to bring them and your Borang W to show the Malay guy, who will look through a bit and take your Left+Right thumb prints twice.
    - then he will right down a number for you: that’s your queue number. So sit down and chill again (or watch TV) till your number is called.
    - my counter was the right most out of the 4 counters; give her the photcopies + Borang W, Y’sia IC, Y’sia passports and the completed forms. Then go back to sit until counter 2 calls out your name. (rather softly)
    - here, pay S$10 and get a receipt telling you what was retained by them, for what purpose, the amount paid, and the date to return for collection of Borang K. (3 working days, in the afternoon 2.30pm to 3.30pm only)
    - and that’s it! Go out, change pass and it’s over for now.

    Note: lots of the info they print/post on web are outdated. Eg. I didn’t need my parents’ docs at all.

    Hope this helps! =D

    Wilson

    20 April, 2011 at 11:46 AM

  762. Thank you Wilson for the step-by-step guide! I’m very sure the readers will appreciate your kind gesture!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    20 April, 2011 at 11:43 PM

  763. Indeed a great post! I just received approval letter from ICA too! after 11 long mths of wait -_-.

    I was asked to go for the Oath taking on 12 May 2011, does that mean I need to get my renunciation of my Msia citizenship & get the K form before the date?
    Is it really takes only 3 days for the K form to return now?

    Also does anyone knows how long it takes to make the SG passport? As I need to travel to Penang on 20/5, so I’m not sure if its enuff time to make the passport once I get the citizenship on 12/5.

    dramaqueen

    26 April, 2011 at 10:19 AM

  764. I think the 3 days mentioned by Wilson is the acknowledgement copy, not the form K which is issued by KL after many months the renunciation is done. Renunciation is done at the high comm by filling the form, that’s it. the form K is the Certificate of Renunciation. The acknowledgement copy is to facilitate oath taking at SG ICA.

    dramaqueen, if you have not done your renunciation at the malaysian high comm, you won’t be able to take the oath for SG citizenship. you do not need the form K for the SG oath taking but you have to submit it within one year from getting your SG citizenship

    Anonymous

    26 April, 2011 at 11:30 AM

  765. singapore passport can be applied for on the day you done your SG oath taking, and can be collected the next day

    Anonymous

    26 April, 2011 at 11:32 AM

  766. oh! Great! Thank you Anonymous for the info!

    dramaqueen

    26 April, 2011 at 1:07 PM

  767. Oh yeah, my bad. It’s not the Borang K immediately, but a letter used to stand in for Borang K.
    The actual Borang K will take about a year to arrive.

    I went to collect this letter today at MHC at 2.30pm, just pass the piece of paper that is stapled to the yellow receipt over to counter 2, and in less than 2 minutes I got to collect the letter. =D

    IMPT: Go over to the passport renewal section at MHC to photocopy 2 copies of this letter! Costs 80cents, or you can go queue up at the ICA shop too.

    So I took a taxi directly over to ICA (costs $9.40) and reached at about 3pm (they said they will close at 4.30pm)
    Take the lift to Level 6 (only accessible by lift!) and tell one of the counters you are here for oath-taking.
    I got a ticket number for counter 22 which was unmanned for 1/2 an hr!! But eventually someone came to collect my docs and then I had to sign the form stating that I will give ICA the real Borang K when it arrives in a year. If not, just call them to extend the dateline.
    After this is just the oath-taking and I got out of there at about 4.10pm.

    I guess this is unofficially over for now. :)

    Wilson

    26 April, 2011 at 7:44 PM

  768. Hi Wilson, so the letter took more than 3 days? or u choose to collect it today & do your oath taking at the same day?
    Just curious, did you go for the oath taking by the scheduled time given by them or just pop by ICA with the form any time?

    dramaqueen

    26 April, 2011 at 9:51 PM

  769. The letter takes 3 working days. I went on 20th (wednesday), but 22,23,24 were not counted as they were good friday, saturday and sunday respectively. Hence, the count continues on to 25th and 26th, the 3rd working day. Anyway, the date is chosen by them, not sure whether you can ask for another date or not.

    I chose to collect the letter and take my oath on the same day as both locations were rather close by, compared to where I came from, so might as well.

    Regarding the ICA side, I tried to check the website to see if I need to make an appointment and I couldn’t find one.
    The only thing regarding time was that they are open from 8am to 4.30pm.

    Hence, it seems to be that we can just pop over to ICA Lvl 6 any day within the 1yr deadline they set for us.

    Wilson

    26 April, 2011 at 10:05 PM

  770. ic..mine was given a specific timing though..guess everyone’s letter of approval is different..

    my only worry is that if I am able to get everything done & get my SG passport by 20/5, my scheduled oath taking date is on the 12/5. Very scared msia drag things =/

    dramaqueen

    26 April, 2011 at 10:16 PM

  771. UPDATES:

    I just went to Msia embassy this morning & everything went through smoothly thanks to everyone’s help! Especially wilson’s step by step guide!

    I reached like 830am, changed my pass & head towards the Consular section (after you enter the side gate, turn right, the female guard will point the way too).

    I downloaded all docs on the Malaysia Embassy website & filled in everything except for the Borong K which is in Malay & the officer there is indeed really friendly & helpful. I fill the Borang K with them guiding me here & there although they asked me to refer to the example on the board.
    Handed them all the required docs after finished, they gave me 2 yellow Borang K to fill up.

    After which, pass everything back to a guy sitting at the corner of the room, then he will give you a queue no., wait for queue no. to be called, hand the officer all the docs with 3 passport photos (they accepted mine with white background) & wait until they call your name, you pay them $10 cash & get back 2 slips of paper (1 small yellow & 1 big) & asked me to go back on 4th May for collection. By 930am, I’m done with everything!

    Quite impressed with the whole experience. Like the rest has mention above, just be polite, say Thank You & smile alot =)..

    dramaqueen

    28 April, 2011 at 1:53 PM

  772. Hi Dramaqueen,
    Great to hear from you that your preocess are so smooth.
    I got some question need to ask from you, so hope you can reply me A.S.A.P
    I was asked to go for the Oath taking on 12 May 2011,but I still haven’t renounce for my M’sia citizenship. I will be going down to M’sia High Comm tomorrow. So wonder will it be late for me?

    Are you born in Singapore?

    Can you please tell me step-by-step what docs should I need to bring & how many copy for each docs.

    ICA need us to renounce before the date, but what did ICA need? It’s the Form K?

    Can it be ready in a day?

    Rgds,
    Annie Teo

    Annie

    28 April, 2011 at 11:03 PM

  773. sorry Dramaqueen,

    My Oath taking is on 4 May not 12 May 2011.

    Annie

    28 April, 2011 at 11:04 PM

  774. Hi Annie,

    sorry i just read your post. U wont be able to get e form by 4/5 if you sumbit onli today. They nd 3 working days to process after your submission. So u submit today, u will only get the acknowledgement form(which you need with you to go ICA) back on 5/5 as 2/5 is a public holiday.

    I suggest u go online to change ur Oath taking appt.

    For the step-by-step guide, I refer to Wilson’s post comment above posted on 20 April, 2011.

    Annie

    29 April, 2011 at 9:26 AM

  775. sorry..dono y name is Annie =P

    dramaqueen

    29 April, 2011 at 9:39 AM

  776. Hi everyone,

    Anyone completed the renounciation and oath taking process in last year March 2010 and already received the notice from Malaysia High Comm to collect Borang K?
    Signz…. More than a year but until now, I still waiting for the notice to complete the very last procedure.

    Wendy

    2 May, 2011 at 2:37 AM

  777. Hi everyone,

    I have received approval-in-principle from ICA and I have just completed 3 compulsory components ie: e-journey, experiental tour tour and Community Session on 21 May 2011.

    As my Malaysia passport will be expired on Sept 2011, do i have to renew my Malaysia passport now?

    HT

    22 May, 2011 at 7:56 PM

  778. Just received Borang-K collection from Malaysia Hign Comm. ~11 months from Renounciation on Aug 10.

    April

    30 June, 2011 at 11:36 AM

  779. April, congrats.
    I just received the letter to collect my borang k,
    i submitted my forms during august 2010, and i received the letter for collection not long ago,
    time taken is much quicker than i’ve predicted :)

    ddboy

    3 July, 2011 at 6:16 PM

  780. 2010 March : submitted application for SC
    2010 August : received notification of approval, done renunciation, registered by SC, applied for passport and NRIC
    2011 June : received notification from MHC that Borang K is ready for collection

    Anonymous

    5 July, 2011 at 2:12 AM

  781. hi everyone, can i ask how long it takes for the NRIC to rch your hand? i done my oath on 21/5, till now haven rcv any letters to go collect my ic..

    dramaqueen

    5 July, 2011 at 9:10 AM

  782. the NRIC will be presented to you at a GRC event by your MP,it is anything from 3 months to 9 months

    I did my SC registration in Aug 2010, got the NRIC only in May 2011….thot they forgotten, but never mind, have passport can travel liao

    Anonymous

    28 July, 2011 at 2:07 PM

  783. I did my SC registration in Aug 2010 also, but I got my NRIC in Nov 2010.

    april

    4 August, 2011 at 2:04 PM

  784. emm..dono how they schedule it -_-..
    btw, surprisingly I got a letter from Msia embassy asking me to go collect my borang K form liao..I only did my renunciation in may 2011, so efficient now! Haven even get my NRIC & they say need to bring NRIC & go collect the form within 2 months of the date on the letter…how ah like that? got anyone got the same case like me?

    dramaqueen

    25 August, 2011 at 9:30 AM

  785. Have not visited this site for a long time…. Wow, looks like they have improved the process a lot. During my time in 2009, just the queue to renounce the citizenship at MHA is 5 months. After the whole thing is done, the actual borany K takes another 13 months.

    Beluga

    19 September, 2011 at 11:01 PM

  786. Beluga, hope you’re doing good! ;) Congratulations! You made it! Thank you so much for all your help so far!

    Anonymous

    21 September, 2011 at 9:49 PM

  787. Beluga, hope you’re doing good! ;) Congratulations! You made it! Thank you so much for all your help so far!

    Sukianto H. Christopher

    21 September, 2011 at 9:49 PM

  788. Help!!! I missed the deadline to collect form k! Can anyone advise me on what to do???

    Choong90

    17 January, 2012 at 6:18 PM

  789. pay mha a visit lor… worse case just go to putrajaya to collect.

    Beluga

    17 January, 2012 at 8:15 PM


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